--- Diss Sid Dia said: franklin pki lagay ang verse nyan or ung lahat ng verse na kasingtulad nyan arm of the lord na yan........ di pa tayo tpos dyan aq ung dati mong kausap si Au Dy Mar....... My response: THE ARM OF THE LORD Numbers 11:23 The LORD answered Moses, Is the LORDs ARM too short? Now you will see whether or not what I say will come true for you. Jeremiah 32:17 Ah, Sovereign LORD, you have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and outstretched ARM. Nothing is too hard for you. Isaiah 52:10 The Lord has made bare His HOLY ARM In the eyes of all the nations; And all the ends of the earth shall see The salvation of our God. Isaiah 53:16 He saw that there was no one, he was appalled that there was no one to intervene; so HIS OWN ARM achieved salvation for him, and his own righteousness sustained him. Isaiah 59:1 Listen! The LORDs ARM is not too weak to save you, nor is his ear too deaf to hear you call. THE ARM OF THE LORD REVEALED TO MANKIND IN PROPHECY - IS JESUS CHIRST Isaiah 53 1 Who has believed our message and to whom has THE ARM OF THE LORD been revealed? 2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. 4 Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished. 9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand. 11 After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many,and made intercession for the transgressors. --- Question now is this: Is the Arm of the Lord God or man? Lets see... Isaiah 51:9 9 Awake, awake, ARM OF THE LORD, clothe yourself with strength! Awake, as in days gone by, as in generations of old. Was it not you who cut Rahab to pieces, who pierced that monster through? 10 Was it not you who dried up the sea, the waters of the great deep, who made a road in the depths of the sea so that the redeemed might cross over? --- If Jesus is the Arm of the Lord in Isaiah 53... how could Jesus have existed by letting the Israelites crossed over the Sea in Isaiah 51when according to the INC Jesus did not exist yet before he was born? So, according to Isaiah 51, it was Jesus as the ARM OF THE LORD who saved the Israelites and brought them out of Egypt. Wait a minute; what does Exodus 20:1-3 say? Exodus 20:1-3 And God spoke all these words: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. --- John 12 37 Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. 38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: “Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the ARM of the LORD been revealed?” 39 For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere: 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them.” 41 Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him. --- According to John 12, Isaiah mentioned Jesus as the ARM of the LORD and those who dont believe are blinded and their eyes hardened. Talking exactly about the Iglesia ni Manalo and all those who refuse to believe Jesus is God. --- Since this is evidence that THE ARM OF THE LORD existed before Jesus was born, and that THE ARM OF THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST, this is evidence of the pre-existence of Jesus Christ. And since the Holy Scriptures described THE ARM OF THE LORD as Jesus Christ in Isaiah 53, your task now is to give the most valid argument why THE ARM OF THE LORD is not GOD. --- Using the biblical passages above, heres the argument ... Premise 1: Jesus Christ is called the Word of God and the Arm of the Lord in the Bible. Premise 2: The Arm of the Lord is an extension of God into our dimension. Premise 3: What ever is an extension of God is also divine and eternal like God. Premise 4: Jesus, as the Arm of the Lord and the Word of God is also divine and eternal like God. Premise 5: No one is divine and eternal other than God. Conclusion: Therefore Jesus is one with God and is therefore God. --- To all INC here... PLEASE GIVE YOUR ARGUMENT WHY THE ARM OF THE LORD IS NOT GOD. Thanks.
Posted on: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:25:53 +0000
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