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(AINA) -- Bordering the Arabian Gulf and containing the towns of Dhahran, Al-Khobar, Dammam, Qatif, Hofuf and Jubail, the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia is where oil was first discovered in Saudi Arabia in the 1930s. Near Jubail are the ruins of what was unearthed in the mid-1980s by a group of people attempting to dig their vehicle out of the sand. The ruins are known as the Jubail Church and are acknowledged by the Saudi government, who will not issue permits to visit it because the site is being excavated. In any case, the original ruins contained four stone crosses, which later went missing, though the marks where the crosses were are still visible. The ruins are thought to date from the 4th century, which make them older than any known church in Europe. Not much else is known but speculation is that it was in some way connected to one of the five Assyrian Church of the East bishoprics which are known to have existed in this area of the Gulf in the 4th century. Arabic-speaking Christians predate the rise of Islam by 300 years, and what else were they going to call God? The word Allah is a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- and the noun ilah, which means God. In parts of ancient Arabia, it once referred to the creator-god (who was not the only god), but for a very long time it has meant the One God. The following photographs were taken in 1986 shortly after the ruins were partially excavated and protected by the Saudi Department of Antiquities. The people Muhammad was sent to were idolaters And We had not given them any scriptures which they could study, and We had not sent to them before you, any warner. Sura 34:44 Hence, as interesting as it sound the word Allah was used for their pagan god of Makkah but the Arab Christians used the word Allah for Yeshua Mashiach. The pagan Arabs were imitators of the Arab Christians in terms of the common word Allah. Christians used the word Allah as an adjective, to mean the Mighty One, similar to Elohim. Later Muslims came and began using the same word Allah as a personal name of Elohim of Muhammad. Why does the Quran say it wishes to prevail over all ways of belief? In Sura 5:44-47, the Quran recognizes the authority of the Torah of Moses and the Gospel of Yeshua both citizens of Israel, were conferred the honorific titles of Elohim and the Son of Elohim by Yahuwah of Israel. Then say to Pharaoh, This is what Yahuwah says: Israel is my firstborn son, Exodus 4:22 The Torah teaches us that the whole Nation of Israel is the Son of Yahuwah, moses is also a son of Yahuwah Elohm. Then Yahuwah said to Moses, See, I have made you like elohim to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exodus 7:1 Yeshua said, I and the Father are one. John 10:30 This Hebrew expression mean I am Elohim. but Yeshua said to them, I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me? We are not stoning you for any good work, they replied, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be Elohim. Yeshua answered them, Is it not written in your Law, I have said you are elohim?If he called them gods, to whom the word of Elohim came--and Scripture cannot be set aside. what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, I am Elohims Son? John 10:32-36 tell us what the future holds, so we may know that you are elohim. Do something, whether good or bad, so that we will be dismayed and filled with fear. Isaiah 41:23 I said, You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High. Psalm 82:6 You have made them a little lower than the angels and crowned them with glory and honor. Psalm 8:5 So according to some Arab Christian theologians they say the word Allah is an invention of Arab Christians theologians who likely shortened the compound Al ilah even as Tri-unity was shortened to Trinity. The words of Yeshua Mashiach. The followers of the Mashiach reached Saudi Arabia prior to 400 A.D and the oldest Church ruins is still found in Jubail city in Easter coast of Saudi Arabia. The Jubail Church had operated in Jubaial with a written Arabic Bible since the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D when this Council had finalized the canon of Scripture and mass production of Bibles had ensued in different languages prior to 400 A.D. All Muslims are relinquished the borrowed word Allah since the Arab Christians had the Arabic Bible to prove that it is deemed it as copyrighted in the Arabic Bible prior to 400 A.D in Jubail Church and in Nijran Church of Yemen. Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Matthew 12:30-32 Whoever disputes about the honorific titles of Israel being the son of Elohim, Moses being called elohim or Yeshua Mashaich has spoken against the Holy Spirit which is unpardonable. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you. John 16:15 Yeshua replied, Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. John 14:23 Yeshua gave them this answer: Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. John 5:19 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.John 12:48-49 I am telling you what I have seen in the Fathers presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father. John 8:38 The King will answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me. Then He will also say to those on His left, Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:40-41 The boundary has been set by Quran in Sura 5:47 and no Muslim can cross the boundary to interfere with the teachings of Yeshua Mashiach in His Gospel. Whatever the Muslims say about the teachings of Yeshua Mahiach that is contrary to the Gospel, are deemed evil doers and an intrustion of the sovereignty of the Mos High granted to the Christians in Sura 5:47 And We sent, following in their footsteps, Isa, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Tawrah and We gave him the Injil (the Gospel), in it hudan (guidance) wanûrun (and light) and muṣaddiqan (confirming) what bayna (between) yadayhi (his hands) of the Tawrah hudan (guidance) wanûrun (and light) for the righteous. walyaḥkum (And let judge) with the people of the Injil what Allah has sent down fîhi (in it). And whoever does not judge by what Allah has sent down, then humu (they are) fâsiqûna (the defiantly disobedient). Sura 5/46-47 This command is given to Prophet Muhammads contemporaries. It is written in the present tense, which in the Arabic language can also refer to the future! If the Injil was corrupted at that time, then surely Allah would never have asked the people of the Inji, the Christians, to believe in it! However why do Muslims DISPUTE with the HONORIFIC TITLES that are given throughout the entire Torah, Tanakh and Gospel when this was from the Holy Spirit given to the Prophets including Yeshua Mashaich? The Quran rejects the honorific titles of son of elohim and does not mentioned at all about the Most High being the Father. “Say: The Holy Spirit brought it down from your Lord with the truth, to strengthen those who believe, and as a guidance and good tidings to the Muslims.” Sura 16:102 Jubail Church in Arabia 400 A.D pictures. Jubail Church is the oldest still remaining church in the world, located in Jubail, Saudi Arabia. It dates to the 4th century. It was discovered in 1986. The government hides it from locals and bans foreigners from visiting it, even archaeologists. It is an ancient Assyrian church possibly of the Nabatean culture. The Saudi government trying to cover it up to save face. Jubail Church is the Worlds Oldest Remaining Church, in the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia. In 1986, people on a desert picnic discovered the ruins of a church near the city of Jubail, Saudi Arabia, while digging one of their trucks out of the sand. The church is believed to have been built prior to A.D. 400, making it older than most churches in Europe. It was likely associated with one of five bishoprics existing on the shores of the Arabian Sea during the term of Nestorius, Patriarch of Constantinople and founder of the heresy that bears his name. Anyone familiar with contemporary Latin and Eastern Rite Catholic church buildings will recognize the basic design. The foundation marks for roof support columns in the main room easily identify it as the nave of a church. Probably, the roof was a thatch of palm branches supported by risers and crossbeams about a foot above the walls for sunlight and ventilation. The congregation would have entered through the main doorway at the west side of the nave and assembled, women standing to the right and men to the left, facing east toward the sanctuary (the middle of the three smaller chambers) where the altar would have been. At the doorways to the sacristy, sanctuary, chapel, and the main entrance, stone crosses were attached to the wall. These four crosses, in place during the early excavation, disappeared in late 1986 or early 1987. Over the years since the discovery, the desert has erased even the marks left when the crosses were removed. The ruins are known as the Jubail Church and are acknowledged by the Saudi government, who will not issue permits to visit it because the site is being excavated. In any case, the original ruins contained four stone crosses, which later went missing, though the marks where the crosses were are still visible. The ruins are thought to date from the 4th century, which make them older than any known church in Europe. Not much else is known but speculation is that it was in some way connected to one of the five Assyrian Church of the East bishoprics which are known to have existed in this area of the Gulf in the 4th century. Note in the pictures the barbed wire fence, obviously to Protect the building, more likely to stop interested parties finding out that Saudi Arabia had one of the Worlds first Churches, and also that the current Oldest Standing Church n the World can still be found in this strictly Muslim country. abovetopsecret/forum/thread533512/pg1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubail_Church
Posted on: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 11:09:45 +0000

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