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//Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father// Does that mean that Jesus who was seen by believers and non-believers alike, is God? Not at all because John says, No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him..... John 1:18 no one has ever seen God but if we love one another, God lives in us... 1 John 4:12 , Paul says, (God) whom no one has seen or can see. 1 Timothy 6:16 Then how can you infer that Jesus who was seen is God? //Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.// If Jesus had been God wouldnt this mean that Jesus has 200% divinity? Jesus who is fully God and Father who is fully God on Jesus himself!!! In the same way, does Father or Jesus live in Holy Spirit? When Jesus said from the cross,Father, into thy hand I surrender my spirit Did he give the spirit of Father who is supposedly living in Jesus too, to the Father? utter confusion!!!! ///although Jesus was in very nature God, He did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing //// If Jesus IS God why should he have to CONSIDER EQUALITY WITH GOD Even without him consider it, he would be God, wouldnt it be so? If Jesus did not consider himself equal to God and became a servant then, how would God consider himself, equal or unequal to Jesus? You have to see the other side of the picture too, rt? // Colossians 2:9 says, “In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form.”// why did you omit the context? Quote it too and then it would be like this , For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. So you also are complete through your union with Christ.... In Christ there is the fullness of God and similarly you are completely united with Christ. Would that make the disciples/followers of Christ God too? Actually the verses from 8-10 are speaking about following the teaching of Jesus which is from God, instead of the teachings of men. Remember Jesus telling that he speaks only what he heard from God(Jn 8: 40)? //sinful nature has been transferred to every baby born into the world (Romans 5:12)—except for Jesus. Because Jesus did not have a human father// Does the Bible teach that children inherit natures only from fathers? If yes, give the verse... We read in Job 15: 14 What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous? How would you explain your philosophy in the light of this verse of Job? There are many verses that say that prophets are holy. 2 Peter 3:2, Acts 3:21, Luke 1:70, Revelation 22:6, Ephesians 3:5 Revelation 18:20. were they born fatherless, or else how can sinners be holy? //He had to fulfill over three hundred prophecies about the Messiah that God, through the prophets, had foretold (Matthew 4:13-14; Luke 22:37; Isaiah 53; Micah 5:2)// Whether these are prophesies about Jesus or not is a controversial subject... ///Since the fall of man (Genesis 3:21-23), the only way to be made right with God has been the blood of an innocent sacrifice (Leviticus 9:2; Numbers 28:19; Deuteronomy 15:21; Hebrews 9:22). Jesus was the final, perfect sacrifice that satisfied forever Gods wrath against sin (Hebrews 10:14)./// only way is blood of the innocent sacrifice? Who said? Havent you read the OT properly?? see what it says, “But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 22None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. Ezekiel 18; 21, 22 Ezekiel 18; 30“Therefore, O house of Israel, I will judge you, each one according to his ways, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. Sacrifice is not mentioned at all. Is this a false teaching? /
Posted on: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 05:41:02 +0000

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