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A reader writes, This confirms my suspicions that our problems were never exclusively caused by Protestantism, or by Western Christianity, and that trying to get back to some kind of uncorrupted Christianity (itself sounding a bit like a Protestant project, no?) by converting to one of the Orthodox Churches, is nonviable. I reply, This is a very complicated and troubling subject. I will say that Orthodoxy has many very serious advantages over Catholicism and Protestantism. I would go so far as to say that they are overwhelming. There are many folk practices preserved in Catholicism which are both wholesome and important for the understanding and thriving of the European soul. Protestantism has three parts: Lutheranism/ Anglicanism, which preserve aspects of ritual life and of hierarchy and authority, Calvinism proper and ultra-Calvinism, the Anglo-Saxon and Scottish Low Churches. These last are so putrid, so unutterable, such an absolute inverse, reverse, perverse desecration of any possibility of goodness, divinity, humanity, worldliness, otherworldliness, love, beauty that C.S. Lewis, upon briefly seeing into their dark heart correctly pronounced on what he saw: Better, he said, to call it devil worship. I believe this totally, with the exception that devil worship has limits on its evil. Milton Lucifer is not in the least frightening if youve read the Old Testament. No figuration of evil in Western Literature even comes close: not Iago, not Stavrogin, not the Oligarchical Collectivism of Orwells 1984, nobody. YHVH is the total inversion of God in every particular, which is why all our portrayals of evil are so grossly inadequate: we cannot draw a picture of True Evil without becoming aware that it is this which we worship. Therefore cream puffs like Iago and Stavrogin and Lucifer are pawned off as evil which they are only a dim reflection of. And yet, as much as I would like to lay the whole matter in the laps of the Low Church, to curse Cromwell down through the ages, to dig up his bones and desecrate them again and again, to imagine that the Merrie England of Stained Glass and Mary and Maypoles and Passion Plays and Saints was a good one, this illusion has been shattered for me. The straw that broke my back was GIllespies Theological Origins of Modernity. He shows, in a way that makes Catholics furious, that Protestantism is a always present possibility towards which the Church is always tending. They were the ones keeping the interpretation of the Bible and the Church Fathers on a leash by lying, corruption and - who knows? possibly even foresight or fear. But Gillespie lists too many Protestants-before-the-fact for anyone to be in any doubt. Catholics - the smarter kind - screech like a herd of swine when you talk about this book with them, of even mention it. In case anyone needs scientific proof that its true. Orthodoxy also senses a mortal enemy in Whites, whom it is parasitic upon. The threat to Chrisitanity is threefold: a) a revelation and general discussion of the actual contents of the Bible and what this indicates about the people who wrote it would obliterate Christianity - even physically. No Church, no Churchman, nothing would be safe. The reaction to counter-religion could be as violent and totaliizing as the default attitude of counter-relgions (Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Communism) towards each other and towards all human existence. b) a revelation of the nature of Jewry, its goals and methods and the unimaginable (to us) lengths to which it willing to go to achieve goals that are also unimaginable to even remotely morally normal people. This is one of the great advantages that Jewry possesses: when people being to understand and start to explain *what* Jews are doing and *how* they are doing it, it is legitimately incredible. A morally normal person - by which I mean a European - will not believe that anyone, much less a highly co-ordinated group of anyones - could possibly wish such things or act with such precision and tenacity. However, given all this, the revelation of what Jewry is would obliterate Christianity at a stroke. The legitimacy of the Bible would be invalidated, except for the insane. We are beginning to see this in Messianic YHVHism, Reform Presbyterianism, Christian Identity, and many other movements. c) all loyalty to nation, race, culture and civilization comes at the expense of loyalty and cash and deference and control that the Church enjoys currently. One needs only mention the possibility of the relationship between biology and culture and that awful, swinish screeching begins anew. The total abandonment of the Greek people to immigration and mosque building by the Orthodox Church, who I guess hasnt been paying attention to the fate of Christians in the Middle East, is astounding to me. As you point out, I did expect more from Orthodoxy. I thought it was adapted to national life, and had some concern for that. I am willing to admit that I was completely wrong, while still maintaing that Orthodox theology, with its hatred of Augustine, Original Sin, Atonement and so forth, is, as I have said, overwhelmingly superior to Catholic understanding. I also continue to maintain that Protestantism is a the opposite end of the scale: total misunderstanding of even the smallest details of human needs with relation to the divine or to the reality of the divine, its nature and abilities and proper modes of approach. Protestantism is the lowest and worst place that humanity has come to in its understanding of itself, the world, and god. I would place it with Mexcian indigenous religion, Communism, and Judaism itself as the closest approximations to a total inversion of a proper understanding of the cosmos and mans place in it. How would I compare it to Islam? Ill just say this: when people say that Islam needs a Reformation, I just laugh and laugh and laugh. Islam *is* the Reformation. Elizabeth I wrote letters to the Sultan as a thoughtful note to accompany the weaponry and raw materials for weaponry she was selling him, listing the many points of similarity between their religions, even remarking that they had more in common with each other than either did with Catholicism. Neither of us holds marriage a sacrament the old cunt exulted to the Sultan. Now you know why France can mount huge protests against Gay Marriage without a hint of homophobia while Anglo-Saxon lands get the worst of both worlds: fanatical homo-hatred, hateful homos loyal to the Revolution, *and* gay marriage. Low Church Protestantism: the worst of all possible worlds.
Posted on: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:42:41 +0000

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