At another Forum: 27th October 1958: A drama started on October 7, 1958 when President Iskander Mirza abrogated the Constitution and declared Martial Law in the country. This was the first of many military regimes to mar Pakistan’s history. With this step, the Constitution of 1956 was abrogated, ministers were dismissed, Central and Provincial Assemblies were dissolved and all political activities were banned. General Muhammad Ayub Khan, the then Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, became ... See More 27th October 1958: A drama started on October 7, 1958 when President Iskander Mirza abrogated the Constitution and declared Martial Law in the country. This was the first of many military regimes to mar Pakistan’s history. With this step, the Constitution of 1956 was abrogated, ministers were dismissed, Central and Provincial Assemblies were dissolved and all political activities were banned. General Muhammad Ayub Khan, the then Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, became the Chief Martial Law Administrator. The parliamentary system in Pakistan came to end. Within three weeks of assuming charge on October 27, 1958, Iskander Mirza was ousted by General Ayub Khan, who then declared himself President bringing the drama to its course. I salute President Ayub Khan and his one unit that brought the nation together!!! What a role model. A harbinger of democracy, independant land of pure with no foreign influence, the growth and development of economy. The interests of the country and its nation were the core at his heart. No corruption, no nepotism! Zinda bad. We desperately need leaders like him and Zia ul Haq. Our saviors. LikeLike · 3 people like this. 55 of 56 View previous comments Sohail Ansari We really need one more of these for the drop scene. 20 hrs · Like · 2 Sohail Ansari Some quarters are already talking of smaller administrative units which is quite right. Is there a need for a bigger country? The land of pure has gone through many experiments, let it have one more final one! 20 hrs · Like · 1 Afzal Sindhi Muhajir Lodi this man started the destruction of pk. 18 hrs · Like · 2 Rais Qureshi Say no to Rais Qureshis photo. 7 hrs · Like Tariq Chundrigar I think we have the distinction of having the only civilian martial law administrator, one from the so called political party, that I call apolitcal dynasty. Do correct me if I am wrong. 5 hrs · Like Talha Siddiqui Worst decision by Armed forces in 1958. But politicians , inducted General Ayub in the cabinet much before he toppled Mirza. He got the taste for power. He got 7 extensions as Commander in Chief. 4 hrs · Like · 1 Tariq Chundrigar The worst kind of opportunism. Unfortunately from the worst kind of people. I am not an anarchist by any stretch of the imagination, but sometimes it seems.the only solution is the use of violence by ordinary people. 4 hrs · Like Muhammad Arshad Worst 3 hrs · Like Saad Ul Malook Mashwani It was the first attempt to abolish democracy and declaring dictatorship .But Ayub Khan was pro-American ,he was the founder of the worst dictatorship and polluted the political set up in Pakistan .He and Zia will be remembered as the best friends of bureaucracy to keep pressed the poor people working for democracy and freedom of expression . 2 hrs · Like · 1 Tariq Chundrigar Whatever Ayub did, what Bhutto did was way worse, and not only because he was elected. 2 hrs · Like Muhammad Arshad True 2 hrs · Like Muhammad Arshad Sad moment of our history 2 hrs · Like Saad Ul Malook Mashwani Ayub Khan abrogated the constitution of 1956 where as Z A Butto gave us an authentic constitution in 1973 .Butto allowed freedom of expression and Ayub Khan banned .Ayub Khan was not a politician where as Bhutto was an intelligent intellectual and was the founder of democracy .It was Bhutto who managed to arrange the islamic summit conference in 1974 .It was Bhutto who gave the conscience to oppressed people to realize their status .It was Bhutto who worked to make Pakistan a nuclear power .It was Bhutto to strengthen the relations with China and China constructed Taxilla Heavy Mechanical Complex and steel mills at Karachi by Russia .Bhutto confirmed Ahmadees as Kafir ( non-muslims ) under the constitution of Pakistan . It was ZULFIQAR ALI BHUTTO WHO ORDERED THE PAKISTANI PILOTS TO BOMBARD ISRAEL DURING THE ARAB ISRAEL WAR IN 1973 AND HENRY KASENGER THE THEN FOREIGN MINISTER OF U .S .A HAD TO DECLARE TO WIPE OUT THE FOUR CARTOONS FROM THE WORLD NAMELY SHAH FAISAL ,QADDAFI , SUIKARNU FROM INDONESIA AND Z A BHUTTO FROM PAKISTAN . 2 hrs · Edited · Like Tariq Chundrigar Father of democracy? wow. Remember the creation of Bangladesh? Remember the hijacking of the democratic process that led to it? remember who hijacked it?? Remember the 77 elections?? The stuffed ballot boxes? You are allowed to worship anyone you like, you cannot get away with a lie. History should not lie. 2 hrs · Like Talha Siddiqui And he had to write Friends Not Masters Total garbage ! He did move the economy forward. Rich became richer and his son Gohar one of the richest by Gandhara industries. Bhutto took advantage and the inequality Ayub created was used to propagate Fake socialism. Now again about turn. It was time by army to use Islam against Bhuttos socialism. Milbus ( Military Business ie the Fauji Foundations, Askari real States, Defense societies and much more ) can only survive in a Capitalist or Islamic economy. Enters Zia and rest is history. We are paying for his stupidity ( Afghan War) until now . 2 hrs · Like · 2 Talha Siddiqui And entersBB ( PP without socialism) and than Nawaz( real mediocre ) and than Mush to reverse Zia legacy. I think the entire nation has been ruled by only selfish or cretin leaders. 2 hrs · Like Tariq Chundrigar Oh, the famous 1973 constitution, which was altered with was it 8 hours or something? So full of fallacies as to make it almost useless. Come on, ZAB worshippers, read you history without bias. At least do not propagate lies. 2 hrs · Like Saad Ul Malook Mashwani Agreed Mr.TALHA . Your arguments are more historical and authentic . But neither Bhutto made any rigging in 1977 elections nor hijacked democracy ,history never veil anyone .We have been suffering still from American friendship and FREE MESSON JEWS ORGANISATION . 2 hrs · Like Saad Ul Malook Mashwani MR tariq ,if referendum is made in the country , I hope you will be alone . 2 hrs · Edited · Like Tariq Chundrigar No worries. I will not be. Trust me. 2 hrs · Like Saad Ul Malook Mashwani TALHA , all of your arguments are logical as you have a vast study in politics but a person just blaming is not more important than a layman . 2 hrs · Like Tariq Chundrigar No ill will towards anyone. Just sad that those that led the country to its present state are almost worshipped, as are their progeny, who continue the loot and corruption. 2 hrs · Like Asad Raheel ZINDA HAI BHUTTO; ZINDA HAI!! 2 hrs · Like Tariq Chundrigar Tariq Chundrigars photo. 2 hrs · Like Tariq Chundrigar Sure, Zinda hai. 2 hrs · Like Saad Ul Malook Mashwani Though Z A Bhutto could not do for what he tried ,it was due to the bureaucratic forces .As Bhutto removed 303 big bureaucrats ,the bureaucracy started conspiracy against him and his land reforms were not practicable because of his own party landlords FAROOQ LAGHARI and others . 2 hrs · Like · 1 Asad Raheel Sure, Zinda ha!! CONGRATS!!...you have just passed the JIYALA TEST, in flying colours, Tariq Chundrigar 2 hrs · Like · 1 Tariq Chundrigar heheh. Me jiyala!! Wow!! 2 hrs · Unlike · 1 Saad Ul Malook Mashwani Bhutto relied on landlords which was his false belief because the landlords captured the leadership of PPP exactly like they captured the leagi leadership under the umbrella of Khan LIAQAT ALI KHAN and ruled the people . 2 hrs · Like Asad Raheel heheh. Me jiyala!! Wow!! ...And now you may bask in the glory, of being a JIYALA!! 1 hr · Like · 1 Tariq Chundrigar You are a sad man, sir. Honestly. Any excuse to forgive your hero. His sons also were not in his control when they terrorized the world, were imprisoned, and released on his pleas. Land reforms would have caused him to lose control of the land the British gave to his father in payment for his loyalty to them, while working for the Nawab of Junagarh. When the results of 77 elections started coming in, he is known to have said words to the effect: we are dead. History my friend has to be read and understood in context. 1 hr · Like Saad Ul Malook Mashwani Tariq ,they are just your hypothesis and assumptions ,but not true .I am M .A . political science ,I know Mr Bhutto was the son of Sir Shah Nawaz but even then he tried for the relief of the poor men and gave them their identity as man and the Bhuttos slogans are now quoted by Qadri and Serajul Haq . 1 hr · Like Tariq Chundrigar I rest my case. 1 hr · Like Talha Siddiqui 1973 constitution is currently the very reason Pakistan still exists. It was a consensus Constitution. Yes Bhutto did amend it rather hastily to keep the Courts in line. 1977 elections were rigged. Around 50 seats as of PNA. Bhutto did win the 77 election. But he wanted2/3rd majority. Rigging did take place . Jan Mohd Abassi and khwaja Khairuddin were abducted. They could not even file nomination papers. All CMs , most ministers and PM Bhutto were unopposed. What a joke it was! We will never learn from history. If you are a mediocre and make mistakes, you can be forgiven. . But if you are intelligent and do the same, how can it be forgotten. Butttttt! No matter what bhutto did with the elections and democracy. Uskay 7 khoon maaf hai . He made us a Nuclear State! Gave us a Consensus Constitution, and provided intelligence and vision to mentally retarded Arabs . This is enough to remember him as the smartest of the lot. 1 hr · Like · 1 Tariq Chundrigar Thank you. Re the constitution. It left out so much, even though we are leaning on it today, it is very much a flawed document. It makes no changes in the way the police act should be modernised. The judicial shenanigans are allowed because there are no provisions to deal with these shenanigans. Provinces had no powers until recent amendments, deliberately keeping the centre all powerful. Like I said, it may be a crutch at the moment, but only because we as a nation have failed ourselves. A much more robust and thorough review need to be done, and an new constitution written. Seriously. 1 hr · Like · 1 Saad Ul Malook Mashwani Being a ruler and feudal lord he could not be expected too much but he introduced peoples democracy in the sense he created awareness among the poor class and his slogans are now repeated by Qadri and Serajul Haq as they condemns feudal democracy and favour the peoples democratic state . 1 hr · Like · 1 Talha Siddiqui It is not holy book. I agree 1 hr · Like Asad Raheel I rest my case. Firstly, as far as I know, its wrest & not rest, Tariq Chundrigar...but where do you go, my.......Yeh tau ibtada-e-ishq hai & a JIYALA shud not run!! youtube/watch?v=71zlOWbEoe8 No Mercy Where do you go Lyrics Lyrics: Where do you go my lovely where do you go I wanna know my lovely I wanna know where do you go... YOUTUBE.COM 1 hr · Like · 1 · Remove Preview Tariq Chundrigar And thus should not be treated as such, more like a work in progress. But it suits the thieves in power to keep it toothless. The list of changes is daunting: educational reform, judicial reform, constitutional reform. Instilling ethical practices in politics. Punishing, on merit and with justice, those that stray. And much more To do this, we need to cold heartedly see where it is we have gone wrong. Who led us astray. How and why. Figure and clan worshiping will only get in the way of these. 1 hr · Like Tariq Chundrigar Asad Raheel saheb, you will get me in trouble!! Liked the song! 1 hr · Like Asad Raheel Bhutto confirmed Ahmadees as Kafir ( non-muslims ) under the constitution of Pakistan Although probably not the gravest sin of ZAB...but certainly one which led to a lot of cruelty on a community that was in the fore front of the creation of Pakistan (even the Pak resolution of 1940 was written by an Ahmadi. Tariq Chundrigar & Saad Ul Malook Mashwani More over consequences of this foolish constitutional ammendment have earned Pakistan, the ire & wrath of the World. 24 mins · Edited · Like · 2 Asad Raheel ZULFIKAR ALI BHUTTO was one of those persons who, however talented, were inherently incapable of being truthful. He was treacherous to India, his country of birth, and simultaneously to Pakistan, the country of adoption. In India, he pursued cases to establish that he was an Indian citizen, whose properties could not be declared evacuee property, while pursuing, around the same period, claims for compensation in Pakistan as its citizen who had lost properties in India. Tariq Chundrigar & Saad Ul Malook Mashwani 23 mins · Edited · Like · 1 Asad Raheel In the end ZAB withdrew his case from the Indian Supreme court...coz that time he was just about to be taken in Ayubs cabinet...And a foreign national probably cud not be appointed...certainly not an Indian national...lol...But no prob, the HONEST ZAB soon after he got appointed minister got his claim which he had made for 12 lac Rs passed for 40 lac Rs. Tariq Chundrigar & Saad Ul Malook Mashwani 23 mins · Edited · Like · 1 Asad Raheel ZAB entered Ayubs cabinet through the back door...ie through his wife ie the Iranian connection!! 1 hr · Like Asad Raheel Are you still there Tariq Chundrigar.& Saad Ul Malook Mashwani..the worst is YET to come!! 22 mins · Edited · Like Asad Raheel Shaaz Mahboob, you have many times cynically refered to the 1971 debacle. Well here it is now, short & sweet!!, courtesy Tariq Chundrigar 1 hr · Like Tariq Chundrigar Heheh. Getting ready for bed, have a long day tomorrow. But you are indeed on the right path. Kissinger called him a consummate liar, or something to the effect, after his conversations with the then Shah of Iran. It just amazes me how this family can have any credibility in this country of mine. With people like the so called intellectual Aitzaz Ahsan following the scion blindly. Intellectual my a**. 1 hr · Like Asad Raheel The Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission report had recommended the Trial of Gen Yahya & his coterie of Army officers.( I strongly support that.) Q: who was to convene that trial? A: ZAB Q: why did ZAB not convene that trial? A: of course he apprhended that the lid wud be lifted off the conspiracy that he made which lead to the creation of Bangladesh eg a. the advice that he gave Gen Yahya to commence military action in Mar 1971 against the Bengalis b. in the aftermath of the Awami league sweeping the elections, the assembly was to convene in Dacca fr swearing in of the new PM ie Mujib...its on record ZAB telling his party members. Any one of my party going there...I shall break his legs c. His famous quote, Udhar Tum. Idhar Hum d. the under cited affidavit of a former President of Pakistan. thelondonpost.net/pakistan-secret-affidavit-of.../ 1 hr · Like Edit Asad Raheel Concluding Shaaz Mahboob & Tariq Chundrigar & Saad Ul Malook Mashwani, The debacle of 1971 was not as much of a military defeat as it was a political defeat...And had the recommendation of the Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission been implemented, in all probability a similar conclusion wud have been arrived at. 21 mins · Edited · Like Asad Raheel However, the devil shud be given his due, whereas he was not the initiator, (Ayub Khan was) ZAB did give impetus to creation of the Nuclear Bomb. Perhaps this was his only service to Pakistan. ...And perhaps Gen Zias only service to Pakistan was that he hung ZAB!! Tariq Chundrigar& Saad Ul Malook Mashwani 21 mins · Edited · Like · 1 Asad Raheel Heheh. Getting ready for bed, have a long day tomorrow What kind of a JIYALA are you, Tariq Chundrigar??..Saad Ul Malook Mashwani Kissinger called him a consummate liar, or something to the effect, after his conversations with the then Shah of Iran Are you admitting to this attribute of ZAB? Molvi Mushtaq CJ High Court called him an Ace liar. He pressed Gen Yahya to take military action while simultaneously pressed Mujib to up the ante. Now if you are berating Henry Kissinger for being a Jew or that kinda sh.t, lemmee tell you a FACT: It was Kissinger & Nichson who saved W Pakistan in 1971...otherwise the Russians had made up their minds to finish it off...also courtesy abuses to the mothers of their leaders (Kosygin & Brezhnev) by Gen Yahya, on the phone (in a drunken spate). 20 mins · Edited · Like Sohail Ansari Of course Ayub Khan and Zia ul Haq are the ones whole nationed should be greatly indebted to. Particularly Zia ul Haq, a true mard e momin who never lied, kept all his promises from day one, united the nation, did not create any ethnic divisions, did not promote the interests of a super power, always held the interests of the country upmost, gave the best political and democratic structure, was very just, open and tolerant, had an extremely friendly background from his efforts in the mideast, was peace loving, threw garlands over his opponents, did not believe in torture, served the religion best and one can go on and on to sing his praises. People are mad who called him jabra sharif or compared him with dogs. They just cannot see how the land of pure has progressed over the years reaping the benefits of his policies even today, how peaceful the whole region is kept. Zindabad the two of them. 47 mins · Like Asad Raheel Zindabad the two of them. The attempted irony is appreciated Sohail Ansari...but I did not even discuss Gen Ayub...And of Gen Zia, I had said that there is only ONE action of his which can be appreciated...the implication being that all or most of his other actions, shud not be appreciated. I wud be willing to discuss Gen Ayub (some other time)...but Gen Zia...is simply not even worth it. Therefore your irony does simply not gel & your arguments hold absolutely no grounds. I have just about finished of with a couple of JIYALAS...do you happen to be another one?...Gimmee a break plz...lol Gnite for Tonite!! 19 mins · Edited · Like · 1 Tariq Chundrigar Jiyala (not) signing off for the night! 23 mins · Unlike · 1 Asad Raheel Oh pardon me Tariq Chundrigar...I went by your performance in the JIYALA test, only to realise retrospectively that you may not be a Jiyala, at all & therefore the above arguments are primarily, for Saad Ul Malook Mashwani, Sohail Ansari & Shaaz Mahboob....& of course all the other JIYALAS on this thread...lol!! 4 mins · Edited · Like
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