Dhruvaloka part 2 Lecture on SB 7.7.30-31 -- Mombassa, September 12, 1971: Those who are desiring to enter into the higher planetary system where demigods live, Candraloka, Sūryaloka, Indraloka, Varuṇaloka, Vāyuloka, Brahmaloka, Dhruvaloka, Bhūr, Bhuvar, Svar, there are different millions of..., vibhūti-bhinnam. Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi-koṭiṣv aśeṣa-vasudhādi-vibhūti-bhinnam (Bs. 5.40). In the brahmajyoti of Kṛṣṇa, there are innumerable planets. The spiritual portion, there are innumerable Vaikuṇṭhas. Vaikuṇṭha means... Kuṇṭha means anxiety. Where there is no anxiety, simply pleasure, that is our life. Here also we want a very happy life without any anxiety. That is our tendency. We try to make a very nice comfortable house, a very good bank balance, all secure so that I can live there very comfortably. That competition is going on. But that is not possible here. Here saṁsāra-dāvānala. This saṁsāra, it is meant for suffering. Dāvānala, just like forest fire. Nobody sets in the forest fire, but it takes automatically. So however you may try to live here comfortably, happily, peacefully, eternally, it is not possible. That is the difference between this temporary material manifestation and eternal, eternal Vaikuṇṭhaloka, spiritual world. Nectar of Devotion Lectures Just like Dhruva Mahārāja. Dhruva Mahārāja, he went to the forest to worship the Lord, for getting the kingdom of his father or better than that. So although when Dhruva Mahārāja saw the Lord he said svāmin kṛtārtho smi varaṁ na yā..., I, I dont want anything. I am now fully satisfied, still Kṛṣṇa gave him Dhruvaloka. The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 30, 1973: Just like Dhruva Mahārāja. Dhruva Mahārāja, he went to the forest to worship the Lord, for getting the kingdom of his father or better than that. So although when Dhruva Mahārāja saw the Lord he said svāmin kṛtārtho smi varaṁ na yā..., I, I dont want anything. I am now fully satisfied, still Kṛṣṇa gave him Dhruvaloka. Because he desired: No, you enjoy. Then you come back again. So there is no need of asking any... Kṛṣṇa knows, as the father knows, the mother knows what is the need of my child; Therefore pure devotee never asks from Kṛṣṇa anything except His service. Mama janmani janamanīśvare bhavatād bhaktir ahaitukī. Without any cause let me be engaged in Your service. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness, perfection. Go on. Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures From Bhāgavatam we understand sun is not fixed up in one place but it is going round. And the whole universal planetary system, they are also moving, making the polestar, making the polestar as the pivot. Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.110-111 -- Bombay, November 17, 1975: From Bhāgavatam we understand sun is not fixed up in one place but it is going round. And the whole universal planetary system, they are also moving, making the polestar, making the polestar as the pivot. So we can see that sun is in the center of the universe, but it is illuminating and heating the whole universe. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa is situated in his own abode, Goloka Vṛndāvana, but by distribution of His different energies He is all-pervading. This is idea. When you speak God all-pervading—His energy. But He is not different from His energy. Śakti-śaktimatayor abheda. Śaktimān, the energetic, and the energy, they are not different. In the Bhagavad-gītā also it is said—Kṛṣṇa says—mayā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagat avyakta-mūrtinā: (BG 9.4) I am situated all over the universe in My avyakta form, nonmanifested form. This Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu enters into each universe, and then, in each universe, from Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu is expanded. That Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu has a planet within this universe near the polestar. Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.172 -- New York, December 14, 1966: Saṅkarṣaṇa and in incarnation... Saṅkarṣaṇa, from Saṅkarṣaṇa, there are three expansions. They are called Viṣṇu-Mahā-Viṣṇu, Mahā-Viṣṇu, Garbhodakaśāyī-Viṣṇu, and Kṣirodakaśāyī Viṣṇu—from Saṅkarṣaṇa. Mahā-Viṣṇu... When the material world is created, the Mahā-Viṣṇu expansion is there. From Mahā-Viṣṇu, all these universes are generated. And from Mahā-Viṣṇu, Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu is expanded. This Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu enters into each universe, and then, in each universe, from Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu is expanded. That Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu has a planet within this universe near the polestar. And from that Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, the expansion, Paramātmā, is distributed in everyones heart. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe arjuna tiṣṭhati (BG 18.61). That Viṣṇu-mūrti is expanded from the Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu within this material world. The Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu is also within this material universe. So Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu; then next Viṣṇu, the third incarnation, is Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. Within this universe there is a planet near the polestar which is called Kṣīrodakaśāyī planet, and there Lord Viṣṇu in His incarnation of antaryāmi, Supersoul... He is acting as the Supersoul. Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.294-298 -- New York, December 19, 1966: So Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu; then next Viṣṇu, the third incarnation, is Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. Within this universe there is a planet near the polestar which is called Kṣīrodakaśāyī planet, and there Lord Viṣṇu in His incarnation of antaryāmi, Supersoul... He is acting as the Supersoul. And He is the universal form. When you think of universal form of the Lord, that is the manifestation of this Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. And that Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu as Paramātmā, Supersoul, is situated in everyones heart, even within the atom also. Aṇḍāntara-stha-paramāṇu-cayāntara-stham (Bs. 5.35). Paramāṇu means atom. Within the atom also. We think of God as very great, universal form, but God can take also form less than the atom. That is Gods power. He is not only great, greatest, but He is the smallest. Aṇor aṇīyān mahato mahīyān. Mahato mahīyān means greatest of the great, and aṇor aṇīyān, the smallest of the small. We cannot think how small He can become. That is His inconceivable potency. So within this material world, He is within the atom, and He is within everyones heart, in everywhere, all-pervading, and at the same time universal form, the biggest form. Initiation Lectures Bhārgava. Bhārgava means the descendant of Bṛghu. Bṛghu is one of the great sages, seven sages, in..., rotating around the polestar, seven sages. And Bṛghu Muni is one of them. Bhārgava. In India there is still a brāhmaṇas family, they are called Bhārgava. Come on, next. Initiations -- New York, July 25, 1971: Prabhupāda: Pāyasvinī dāsa. Pāyasvinī means the Surabhī cow who delivers milk as much as you like. (devotees laugh) Surabhīr abhipālayantam. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa-lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhīr abhipālayantam (Bs. 5.29). Come on. Devotee: Bhārgava. Prabhupāda: Bhārgava. Bhārgava means the descendant of Bṛghu. Bṛghu is one of the great sages, seven sages, in..., rotating around the polestar, seven sages. And Bṛghu Muni is one of them. Bhārgava. In India there is still a brāhmaṇas family, they are called Bhārgava. Come on, next. Devotee: Sumahat. Prabhupāda: Sumahat. Great personality. Come on. You know the rules and regulations? General Lectures When Dhruva Mahārāja refused to take any benediction, Lord Viṣṇu informed him that Dont bother. You had some desire for material fulfillment, so there is Dhruvaloka. You enjoy, and after your life is finished, youll come to Vaikuṇṭha. So Kṛṣṇa is so nice, so liberal, that if you have got a little tinge of aspiration He will fulfill you, and at the same time, youll go back to home, back to Godhead. Lecture with Translator -- Sanand, December 27, 1975: Even if you have got material desires, sarva-kāma, still you be attached to Kṛṣṇa so your material aspiration will be fulfilled; at the same time, youll get Kṛṣṇa. When Dhruva Mahārāja refused to take any benediction, Lord Viṣṇu informed him that Dont bother. You had some desire for material fulfillment, so there is Dhruvaloka. You enjoy, and after your life is finished, youll come to Vaikuṇṭha. So Kṛṣṇa is so nice, so liberal, that if you have got a little tinge of aspiration He will fulfill you, and at the same time, youll go back to home, back to Godhead. Therefore it is recommended, yajeta paramaṁ puruṣa. If you have got some material desire, still you worship Kṛṣṇa. Hell fulfill; at the same time, you will be able to go back to home, back to Godhead. Kṛṣṇa is all-powerful, almighty, full with six opulences. So if you have got any material desire, that also Kṛṣṇa can fulfill, but you stick to Kṛṣṇa so that your āsakti will be increased. If you divert your attention to other demigods, then this āsakti will fail. Therefore for a devotee who sticks his faith in Kṛṣṇa, he has no chance for worshiping other demigods. So the Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says, anya devāśraya nāi, tomāre kahinu bhāi, ei parama bhakti karaṇa. For a devotee of Kṛṣṇa there is no scope for worshiping other Deity, because that will not help him to increase his attachment for Kṛṣṇa. But if we want our āsakti, attachment, to increase for Kṛṣṇa, then absolute... Conversations and Morning Walks 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks It is a question of adjustment of air, not the law of gravity. Now the whole universal planetary system are floating and rotating round the polestar. Morning Walk -- May 18, 1975, Perth: Amogha: But that heaviness they say is gravity. Prabhupāda: You can call anything. (laughs) But if Kṛṣṇa desires, a football may not fall. Just like so many planets, they are carried up by the air. All these planets are moving only by the air. So the heavy land, heavy cloud is carried by the air. It is a question of adjustment of air, not the law of gravity. Now the whole universal planetary system are floating and rotating round the polestar. Is it law of gravity, they are rotating? It is the arrangement of the air, by the air it is up. Just like there is dust storm, so many are floating in the air. There is no question of law of gravity; it is the air. And the who is controlling the air? That is Supreme Personality. Just like in Darwin, the motor buses were floating by the air. It was a great storm there? Yes. The pivot is the polestar. Fixing, the pole-star, they are moving like this. And there is suns movement. So we shall go once again? Morning Walk -- October 25, 1975, Mauritius: Prabhupāda: Yes. Cyavana: They move together? Prabhupāda: Yes. The pivot is the polestar. Fixing, the pole-star, they are moving like this. And there is suns movement. So we shall go once again? Cyavana: Yes. We can go back. Indian man: (break)...friend, and I told him that you said these things. So he asked me the question about the eclipse. So I would like to know to explain to him about it. To avoid the explanation, if the scientist says that there are several movements... But you explain what is that movement? According to our śāstra there is no individual movement. The whole system is moving, making center the polestar. That we can see at night. Morning Walk -- November 17, 1975, Bombay: Dr. Patel: All the movements that the heavenly stars and other things are going on in a particular way. Prabhupāda: No, you do not know what are the movements. You therefore say there are several movements, but you do not know what are these movements. That is not scientific. To avoid the explanation, if the scientist says that there are several movements... But you explain what is that movement? According to our śāstra there is no individual movement. The whole system is moving, making center the polestar. That we can see at night. They have... Star and planet, they have no separate movement. They are fixed up. Just like this tree. There are so many leaves. The tree is moving, so the leaves and twigs, they are moving, not that the leaf is moving. 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks No, thats admitted, that the polestar, the stars are revolving around, everything. They take photographs. Morning Walk -- March 18, 1976, Mayapura: Prabhupāda: So our Bhāgavata says the whole planetary system is moving like this. Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Prabhupāda: Centering the polestar. Jayapatākā: They admit that theres some center of the universe. Everything is going around that, including the sun. But they dont know exactly where it is. Prabhupāda: That is polestar. Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: No, thats admitted, that the polestar, the stars are revolving around, everything. They take photographs. Pañca-draviḍa: What? Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Of the.... Everything revolving around the polestar, the constellations. Polestar is fixed, that is fact. And all.... It is like pivot. Everyone round, round. Ūrdhva-mūlam adhah-śākham (BG 15.1). This tree is spread downwards. The root is upward. Room Conversation -- June 15, 1976, Detroit: Ambarīṣa: It might have something to do with the magnetic poles. The magnetic force is always pulling to the north. Prabhupāda: That is the polestar. Yes. That is the up side of the universe. And that we have described in the Bhāgavatam. That is the pivot, and the whole planetary system is moving twenty-four hours. Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Thats factual also. Because they see that all of these stars and constellations are going around the North Star. Prabhupāda: But the modern astronomy, they do not say like that. Jayādvaita: No. They dont say it is moving around. They dont say that its moving around the polestar. They have some other explanation. Prabhupāda: That means theyre imperfect. Mādhavānanda: They say that its fixed. They say the polestar is fixed, but it doesnt revolve around. They say everything moves, but the polestar is... Prabhupāda: Polestar is fixed, that is fact. And all.... It is like pivot. Everyone round, round. Ūrdhva-mūlam adhah-śākham (BG 15.1). This tree is spread downwards. The root is upward. 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks This planetary system is rotating from east to west, and it is hanging like the chandelier, taking shelter of the polestar. That we can see every night. Now where is the situation, which planet, where is sun, where is moon—so that he has to assert. Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One big paṇḍita has been contacted, and hes very surrendered to Prabhupāda. He wants to help Prabhupāda and our movement to understand the meaning of the śāstras in regard to the layout of the universe, so that the planetary systems can be done in our planetarium. Prabhupāda: This planetary system is rotating from east to west, and it is hanging like the chandelier, taking shelter of the polestar. That we can see every night. Now where is the situation, which planet, where is sun, where is moon—so that he has to assert. Svarūpa Dāmodara: When hes coming, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Prabhupāda: I have asked him to come in this ceremony. You can go to his office, can give him instruction how the planetary system is hanging. The polestar, dhruva-tārā, is the center, and it is moving. That at night you can see. It is moving. Conversation with Vedic Astronomer -- April 30, 1977, Bombay: Prabhupāda: No, my order... It is for this purpose I sent him, so you can begin immediately or... Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Surabhī has an office with all things ready, drawing board... Prabhupāda: You can go to his office, can give him instruction how the planetary system is hanging. The polestar, dhruva-tārā, is the center, and it is moving. That at night you can see. It is moving. Indian Astronomer: In Vedas also description, as (quotes Sanskrit verses). Prabhupāda: No, what is the first, beginning? You just give him. Read it. The Sanskrit reading. Indian Astronomer: (reads Sanskrit from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Fifth Canto) Prabhupāda: Sapta-sindhu... You have to make diagram where the sapta-sindhu are. That polestar, center? Showing of Planetary Sketches -- June 28, 1977, Vrndavana: Bhakti-Prema: Yes, in the universe. It is very high. Prabhupāda: And where is that cakra? Bhakti-Prema: Cakra? Prabhupāda: That polestar, center? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That will be in another... Bhakti-Prema: We will give another picture. Prabhupāda: Oh. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This picture only shows mainly part of Jambūdvīpa and especially Ilāvṛta-varṣa, the middle of... Prabhupāda: So Brahmaloka is in Jambūdvīpa? Bhakti-Prema: No, no, no. Brahmaloka is in Satyaloka.
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