Do you do more than just lecture? Bob Ertischek Trainer, Professor and Social Media Professional Top Contributor [T]he impression I get is that itâs almost unethical to be lecturing if you have this data Lectures Arent Just Boring, Theyre Ineffective, Too, Study Finds ow.ly Active learning boosts grades, reduces failure rates in undergraduate STEM classes, concludes major... Like (8) Comment (20) Share Follow Reply Privately 2 months ago Comments Paul Bourget, Elf Vekaria and 6 others like this 20 comments Jump to most recent comment Darrin Thomas, PhD Darrin Darrin Thomas, PhD Adjunct Lecturer at Asia Pacific International University People who study education have been saying this for over 100 years. It goes all the way back to at least John Dewey. Friere moan about this in the 1970s. The problem is that students are living in a much faster pace world. This means that the lecture format is probably declining in efficiency because of how fast life moves now. To out it simply, lectures have always been bad but now they are even worst. Curriculum scholars know that lectures are not the best way. They can be one of the tools in a professors bag but we all know the idiom if all you have is a hammer then everything looks like a nail. Like (1) Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago Douglas Rugh likes this Jeremy Graham Jeremy Jeremy Graham Adj. Lecturer at New York City College of Technology Im sure it goes back to well before Socrates. But lectures are becoming ineffective because students are trained to not listen to lectures and not read chapters in books. The studies are flawed in the sense that we really dont have a way to really measure outcomes if there is a way. If someone is really adventurous, they could do a study on American college students, including those who started their education overseas. While traditional methods are not the only methods (I went to a Summerhill school in England as well as a traditional one) I think you would find that students from the countries where traditional methods are used do better in American colleges. Like (2) Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago Douglas Rugh, Fannes N. like this Felix Rivera-Perez, MSEd Felix Felix Rivera-Perez, MSEd Resource Associate at Fashion Institute of Technology and Adjunct Lecturer at Baruch College For the summer class Im teaching, I plan on delivering a more interactive way of teaching. Lets be honest: not only do our students have less patience for a traditional lecture; sometimes we dont even want to listen to ourselves for a good solid hour or two. Ive found students love back and forth dialog. And as much as they grumble about it, they eventually see the benefit of in-class and out of class group work. My students and I learn from each other, and they quickly network with their colleagues. Like (2) Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago Douglas Rugh, Patricia R. like this Carol Stensrud Carol Carol Stensrud Head of All Things Artistic at Stensrud Studio Cooperataive, engaged learning is the best. However, the climate and culture and readiness of the class to do this has to be considered. I explain why I use the cooperative learning method (benefits to them) and ease them into it with graduated types of cooperative learning experiences. I have used this style since the 70;s before it was proven to be effective by Harvard. SInce then have studied cooperative education formats and experiencial learning because no one taught or showed me how to do this type of education early in my career. Few were doing it. It is not as popular in Oceana where I worked for 7 years, alot of baulk and push back, but I think students in general..young college students, prefere to watch their cell phone and being asked to participate...just screws that plan up. not kidding here. Like (2) Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago mare A., Fannes N. like this Jesse Martin Jesse Jesse Martin Senior Lecturer at Bangor Universuty In March I posted on my blog where I presented some of the evidence Bligh used in his damning indictment of lecturing. hethoughts.wordpress/2014/03/26/lecturing-again/ I dont necessarily agree that students dont like lecturing. As we have been trying to introduce student centred learning in some of our classes, the kick-back is at least as powerful from students as it is from teachers. A Facebook comment from one of our students about this sums up what too many of them believe: Your job is to tell me what I need to know to pass the exams - you are not doing your job Like (4) Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago Rhoda G., Jeremy G. and 2 others like this Rhoda Galangco Rhoda Rhoda Galangco Professor at University of Baguio There are topics where the best means of conveying them is through lectures. Lectures are effective if done once in a while and when used in combination with other methods. In class, we have students who are auditory and visual learners so lectures benefit them well. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago sudarsan rao sudarsan sudarsan rao Lecturer at Centurion University of Technology and Management Now a days the students are not giving more attention on class room based studies, because due to the advancement of technology and information. So they need more practical based information as well as learning through experience. Project based studies are more impacting on student learning. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago John Mullen John John Mullen Academic Lead (Teaching and Learning) at University of Sunderland The comment Your job is to tell me what I need to know to pass the exams - you are not doing your job is typical of the inane attitude of so many students today. Not their fault. More a feature of our globalised, materialistic society today and our (and their) view of them as customers. Yes it is part of our job to get them through the exams, but it less important than our role in enthusing them and developing in them critical insight and a love of learning. Do that and the rest will take care of itself. Without it the degree certificate is a worthless piece of paper. I have got many students through, who, if I were an employer, I would not pay in washers. This is doing them no favours. I am 64 years old. I have masters degrees in history, law and education and am currently studying for one in creative writing. I have several professional qualifications and have had a number of successful careers. I came into the academic world at the age of 55, having worked in banking, taxation and been a school teacher before. I speak several languages and am a practising singer and organist. I say this not to boast but to highlight the fact that a love of learning which was developed by inspiring teachers at school and university has been at the root of my successful careers. Yes there is a place for lectures, but the traditional lecture is much less effective and much less necessary in the age of Google. Im with Eric Mazur and others who think like him. Have a look at Michael Sandel on justiceharvard.org/ and ask yourself When is a lecture not a lecture? As for cell phones, they are completely banned and out of sight in my sessions, unless it is for a purpose clearly defined by me. Like (1) Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 months ago Jeremy G. likes this Jennie Dilworth Jennie Jennie Dilworth Teacher, Writer, Researcher, Family Life Educator I believe that times have changed and so have student expectations. When I was an undergraduate, there was very little classroom interaction. Straight lecture was the norm. However, in my first tenure-track position, I worked at a teaching-first institution. The students would have crucified me if I had tried lecturing all of the time. The data on active learning is not surprising. The real problem, in my opinion, is trying to incorporate active learning in classrooms that seat hundreds of students. Active learning does take more class time, and I agree that the subject matter often determines the best means of conveying information. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 1 month ago Dr.Mona Moussa Dr.Mona Dr.Mona Moussa Director for Quality Assurance & Insitutional Development at University for Business & Technology Students today do not want to be lectured, they want to contribute from day one with their thoughts about everything and anything. Drop lecturing and work on facilitation more. Make the lecturing sound as if yu are asking them to question whatever knowledge at hand. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 29 days ago Lau Sue Ying Lau Lau Sue Ying Academic Manager at Vinayaka Missions International University College And thus teaching and learning in the classroom has shifted from being teacher centered to student centered instead. It is no more all about I talk and you listen. Active participation by students in class are crucial as generation these days are not just gonna sit there and listen to your lecture whole day long. At the end of the day, what we want to achieve is to ensure that students themselves are able to do what is stated in the learning outcomes; not what we want them to do anymore. Include technology to enhance the learning experiences as students will be able to remember better. Refer back to the Cone of Learning by Edgar (1969). 90% tend to remember better even after 2 weeks if we say, we do is applied. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 5 days ago Dr.Mona Moussa Dr.Mona Dr.Mona Moussa Director for Quality Assurance & Insitutional Development at University for Business & Technology I was responsible to mentor and train our new faculty on the latest techniques of interactive learning proposed by accredited organizations and the results were amazing. Students loved coming to class, ideas were generated and the professors felt great seeing their students happy about their classes. But it almost meant more work for the professor to get the knowledge across Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 4 days ago Helen Ovbude Helen Helen Ovbude Lecturer at University of Lagos, Nigeria Top Contributor Lecturing if excellent, productive, explanatory and interactive can be very interesting, I am yet to see a student no matter how poor academically that does not love it. First I like to buttress this with my Secondary school experience, I think that is what you also called high school. I have a teacher who picks on me for no meaningful reasons but simply because he wants his own student which he had mentored from our Junior Secondary Classes to occupy the Senor Girl position and for which he was sure I am well position for to snatch, though I dont have any such intention except am called upon honorably. So I reacted by minding my own business and choosing Literature-in-English Subject even as a science student instead of Geography which he teaches, And the other teachers did not bother to reconcile us because they felt he deserved it.His student got the position quite alright. But having achieved his aim, he wants me now on his side and I wont bulge. His preferred student is my friend and remained so but not him. All science students was stopped from taking Literature, I still refused to take Geography. He tried being nice and I will choose to read Newspaper when he is in class because am not taking the subject. However, along the line I found that he really could teach very well and geography was so interesting and he remained nice. So I joined the class for Geog. it became one of my best subject in School, I also became the Treasurer for the Historical and Geographical Society and got an A in Geography in my Certificate exams. Even as a PhD student now my thesis is basically sociological but with geography embedded in it which I have no problem blending together. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 days ago Helen Ovbude Helen Helen Ovbude Lecturer at University of Lagos, Nigeria Top Contributor My experience in the University also shows the importance of giving your students the best even after Lecturing. Apart from normal lecturing which we as students hardly contribute anything to but laugh when a joke is shared by any of our Lecturers. Though we do write term papers which are usually interesting and we also have student in my departments both at senior levels even when I was just a Freshman who taught us the rudiment of answering exams questions properly and how to write good term papers. However, our Lecturers stands out in one respects they will always recommends the best texts for us which is usually making waves globally as well as standard local texts that are excellent, never any below standard. We do have some excellent Lecturers which I cant just forget. Now as a Lecturer myself in a university, I found that students hunger for knowledge and will always be ready to learn when they come across good teachers. Provided such Lecturer teaches properly. It took me time to create an interactive class because it seems they are not use to it or probably they are intimidated. And the result was excellent and unbelievable. I believe in giving my students the best, I feel morally bound, as a tribute to good Teachers I have come across and also to be me. As Teachers we can always count on lecturing provided we are doing a good job and ensure an interactive class. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 2 days ago Jeremy Graham Jeremy Jeremy Graham Adj. Lecturer at New York City College of Technology Its whether what you do over the long haul (the students, not yours) is what means something. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 1 day ago mare atleo mare mare atleo Associate Professor at University of Manitoba in Piaget leaning theory parlance they want to accommodate to the learning and not be assimilated into the body of knowledge...there are some who just want to learn by rote...esp. from Asian and Middle Eastern countries because that is what they have been used to...the more participatory they want to be the more I require them to know themselves so they get a lot of exercises to understand their own learning befor the course content is worked on...the Carnegie hour and semester timeframes are not at all useful for this process. Undergraduates dont know their own learning approaches or understand the levels of learning....my courses deal with worldviews and concptual frameworks that use content knowledge differently which the students HATE because they are used to assimilating content into their own worldviews and existing frameworks... as you can imagine...my lectures...of a concept of content materials are very short and the beginning or a teachable moment in the context of a high level of interaction between students/student groups/students and myself/students in field exercises....etc. with technology conceptual knowledge is just know enough anymore...students need embodied touchstones....and active meaning making strategies....its a whole new world of students...and their diversity makes leading them to knowledge a whole new type of teaching... Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 14 hours ago Jeremy Graham Jeremy Jeremy Graham Adj. Lecturer at New York City College of Technology Its not a matter of spoonfeeding them. You have to rock their world with the significant ideas of your subject. Diversity is only an idea. Its completely subjective. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 14 hours ago Dr. Tammy L Ferrante Dr. Tammy L Dr. Tammy L Ferrante Adjunct Faculty at Florida Career College Lecture is like everything else -- good in moderation. Lecture is only a one way line of communication; however to drive true learning students must be engaged in a multi-directional conversation between the instructor and themselves. Some successful strategies would include for the instructor to use the lecture to introduce the topic and then have students break up the information into groups and each group is then responsible for presenting that piece of information to the rest of the class.. Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 12 hours ago Terry Bridges Terry Terry Bridges Educator and Ph.D. Candidate Somebody mentioned Eric Mazur-- physics education research shows clearly that lectures are not as effective as active learning strategies such as peer instruction, small group discussions, etc. If you only lecture to your students, youre doing them a disservice. You may think youre great, but your students will learn more if you dont lecture so much Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 10 hours ago Jeremy Graham Jeremy Jeremy Graham Adj. Lecturer at New York City College of Technology I agree that there are other useful methods besides lecture. We arent agreed on what we mean by effective. Im not quite sure who it serves if we pass everyone. Retention rate is always a short term measure. At the same time that youre avoiding the cost of recruiting one more student, youre hurting, not helping the students, parents, employers and lenders. Grades arent a good measure of how a person can apply the course towards the real world and the article doesnt even claim that more students get As. Like (2) Reply privately Flag as inappropriate 9 hours ago Douglas Rugh, Marlene A. like this
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