Ephesians 2:8-9King James Version (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Is there a literal hell yes other versions of the Bible they call it Hades. and in the Old Testament definition for HELL is sheol . its the same thing as hell . the rich man and Lazarus is no parable if you disobey God you will be in this prison until the White Throne judgement and I will prove it . Luke 16:19-31 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abrahams bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. [ Abrahams bosom is different from heaven. hell is different from the second death and I will show you later in this post 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.... so nobody saved can walk over to hell and nobody from hell can walk over to Abrahams bosom.... Matthew 12:40 King James Bible For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whales belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. so Jesus will be dead for three days and three nights when Jesus went down to the spiritual prison was there any person in there 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 1 Peter 3:19 King James Bible By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 1 Peter 3:20 King James Bible Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water .. so obviously people were in hell if you still do not believe Jesus went to the spiritual prison or hell Ill prove it again Acts 2:31 King James Bible He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. do I believe that Jesus was tortured in hell no if God reveals it to me I will believe it. we know that the rich man suffer in HELL And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.... rich man he was not tortured by anyone but he did feel the flames could Jesus also feel the flames also. Acts 2:31 King James Bible He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. now I will prove that hell is not the second death but the Lake of Fire is the final resting place the second death now we will fast forward to the White Throne judgement now God will retrieve the souls out of hell now Revelation 20:13 King James Bible And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelation 20:13 now New International Version The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. i am putting two different versions together to make it better to understand now I will prove that hell and Hades will be thrown in the lake of fire which is the same thing along with the people Revelation 20:14 King James Bible And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. now Revelation 20:14 New International Version Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. hell is a holding place in till you get thrown in the lake of fire. Revelation 1:18 King James Bible I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. I almost forgot this verse .. Matthew 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:41 King James Bible Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:.. Revelation 20:10 King James Bible And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. ...... definition of hell 86. hadés ► Strongs Concordance hadés: Hades, the abode of departed spirits Original Word: ᾍδης, ου, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: hadés Phonetic Spelling: (hah-dace) Short Definition: Hades Definition: Hades, the unseen world. HELPS Word-studies 86 hádēs (from 1 /A not and idein/eidō, see) – properly, the unseen place, referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.. Old Testament definition for HELL is sheol....... 7585 [e] šə-’ō-wl שְּׁא֣וֹל in hell .......... 7585. sheol ► Strongs Concordance sheol: underworld (place to which people descend at death) Original Word: שְׁאוֹל Part of Speech: Noun Feminine Transliteration: sheol Phonetic Spelling: (sheh-ole) Short Definition: Sheol NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin of uncertain derivation Definition underworld (place to which people descend at death) NASB Translation Sheol (66). ......... by David W. Daniels The word Gehenna is properly translated hell in the King James Bible. And actually, except for three known Bibles1, every Bible says hell, not the untranslated word Gehenna. What does Gehenna mean? Gehenna originally referred to the Valley of Hinnom by Jerusalem. It was the place of horrible idolatry. So when the Hebrews finally came back to Jerusalem after 70 years of Babylonian Captivity (about 605-535/6 BC), they resolved never to use the Valley of Hinnom for idolatry again. Instead, they burned their trash there, and it became a burning valley of waste. But we know that Jesus and the apostles didnt mean to refer to a garbage dump. Heres why. There are certain statements in the Bible that tell us clearly about Gehenna, translated hell in the King James Bible. Notice these verses. Both body and soul are destroyed there And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (Matthew 10:28). No power on earth can destroy a soul. The soul is a part of a person that exists beyond physical death (Revelation 20:4). Gehenna has to be a place to destroy both the body and the soul. A person goes there after death And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him (Luke 12:4-5). It is no threat to throw a dead body into a grave, a junkyard or a furnace. But God has power to cast a person, whose body is dead, into Gehenna. There is only one reason to fear the person that can throw you into Gehenna: you must be aware that you are cast there. So Gehenna is hell, the place where the unrighteous dead are cast. Its fire shall never be quenched And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: (Mark 9:43, 45). Gehenna is said to be a fire that shall never be quenched. The earth and the works therein shall all be burned up (2 Peter 3:10), but they will be replaced with a new earth wherein righteousness dwells (2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:1). So Gehenna could not mean an earthly place, since all fires shall be quenched on earth. But hells fire shall never be quenched. It is clear: Gehenna is hell, not a trash dump. Even though the word Gehenna comes from the Valley of Hinnom, simply rendering it as garbage dump or valley of waste disposal or burning garbage could not be an accurate translations, because thats not what Jesus and the apostles meant when they used the word. It meant the place where people go when they die. Thats what we mean when we say hell. You wrote: If you have read a bible written before 1400. You will notice a very important thing, HELL is missing. Instead it says Gehenna. You mentioned Bibles before 1400. The only known Bible in English from before then is the Wycliffe Bible of 1380. Does it use hell or Gehenna? Lets find out! The term Gehenna is found in Greek in these verses of the Bible: Matthew 5:22,29-30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15,33; Mark 9:43,45,47; Lu 12:5; Jas 3:6 Here they are in the Wycliffe version: Matthew 5:22 But Y seie to you, that ech man that is wrooth to his brothir, schal be gilti to doom; and he that seith to his brother, Fy! schal be gilti to the counseil; but he that seith, Fool, schal be gilti to the fier of helle. Matthew 5:29-30 That if thi riyt iye sclaundre thee, pulle hym out, and caste fro thee; for it spedith to thee, that oon of thi membris perische, than that al thi bodi go in to helle. And if thi riyt hond sclaundre thee, kitte hym aweye, and caste fro thee; for it spedith to thee that oon of thi membris perische, than that al thi bodi go in to helle. Matthew 10:28 And nyle ye drede hem that sleen the bodi; for thei moun not sle the soule; but rather drede ye hym, that mai lese bothe soule and bodi in to helle. Matthew 18:9 And if thin iye sclaundre thee, pulle it out, and caste awei fro thee. It is betere to thee with oon iye to entre in to lijf, thanne hauynge tweyn iyen to be sent in to the fier of helle. Matthew 23:15 Wo to you, scribis and Farisees, ypocritis, that goon aboute the see and the loond, to make o prosilite; and whanne he is maad, ye maken hym a sone of helle, double more than ye ben. Matthew 23:33 Ye eddris, and eddris briddis, hou schulen ye fle fro the doom of helle? Mark 9:43 (9:42) And if thin hoond sclaundre thee, kitte it awey; it is betere to thee to entre feble in to lijf, than haue two hondis, and go in to helle, in to fier that neuer schal be quenchid, Mark 9:45 (9:44) And if thi foote sclaundre thee, kitte it of; it is betere to thee to entre crokid in to euerlastynge lijf, than haue twei feet, and be sent in helle of fier, that neuer schal be quenchid, Mark 9:47 (9:46) That if thin iye sclaundre thee, cast it out; it is betere to thee to entre gogil iyed in to the reume of God, than haue twey iyen, and be sent in to helle of fier, where the worme of hem dieth not, Luke 12:5 But Y schal schewe to you, whom ye schulen drede; drede ye hym, that aftir he hath slayn, he hath power to sende in to helle. And so Y seie to you, drede ye hym. James 3:6 And oure tunge is fier, the vniuersite of wickidnesse. The tunge is ordeyned in oure membris, which defoulith al the bodi; and it is enflawmed of helle, and enflawmeth the wheel of oure birthe. So you see that Gehenna is not the term used in English at all! Not until Youngs Literal Translation in the late 1800s, followed by the Catholic New American Bible of 1970 was the untranslated Gehenna put in. Look at foreign translations. The Spanish Reina-Valera of 1602-1989 rightly says el infierno and the Portuguese Corrigida Fiel says do inferno, both of which mean Hell as we in English use the term. Hell is an understandable word. Gehenna is not. And hell accurately translates the meaning of the word Gehenna. Gehenna is not a translation; it is just a transliteration (translating letters, but not meaning). We find that first in the perverted Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate (400s AD), which was forced on the people of Europe as the only legal Bible for over a thousand years. Not until the Reformation of the 1500s were Gods actual words translated into the language of the people. And every one of them was careful to translate Gehenna into an English word with the same meaning. All but two of the English Bibles, from at least 1380 onward (thats all Ive checked on this so far), translate Gehenna into the understandable word hell.2 Thats what a good Bible should do. You are welcome to read the article Who Needs Hell? It will show you why it is important to translate the word into a word that makes sense in English. I hope this has helped you understand the King James Bible a little more, and why it is the preserved words of God in English. May God bless you as you read and understand His words. Strongs Concordance Definition: for geenna 1067. geenna ► Strongs Concordance geenna: Gehenna, a valley W. and South of Jer., also a symbolic name for the final place of punishment of the ungodly Original Word: γέεννα, ης, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: geenna Phonetic Spelling: (gheh-en-nah) Short Definition: Gehenna Definition: Gehenna, and originally the name of a valley or cavity near Jerusalem, a place underneath the earth, a place of punishment for evil. HELPS Word-studies 1067 géenna (a transliteration of the Hebrew term, Gêhinnōm, the valley of Hinnom) – Gehenna, i.e. hell (also referred to as the lake of fire in Revelation). Gehenna (hell), the place of post-resurrection torment (judgment), refers strictly to the everlasting abode of the unredeemed where they experience divine judgment in their individual resurrection-bodies. Each of the unredeemed receives one at the Great White Throne Judgment (Rev 20:11-15), i.e. a body that matches their capacity for torment relating to their (unique) judgment. NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin of Hebrew origin gay and Hinnom Definition Gehenna, a valley W. and S. of Jer., also a symbolic name for the final place of punishment of the ungodly NASB Translation hell (12). .......... The word hell occurs in the New Testament twelve times - eleven from the lips of Jesus. It is not a myth created by dismal and angry preachers. It is the solemn warning of the Son of God who died to deliver sinners from its curse .............. when Lazarus died he went to Abrahams bosom when Jesus finally came he said John 3:13 King James Bible And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 1 Corinthians 15:50 King James Bible Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 2 Kings 2:11 King James Bible And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. the word heaven also means sky... 8064. shamayim ► Strongs Concordance shamayim: heaven, sky Original Word: שָׁמַ֫יִם Part of Speech: Noun Masculine Transliteration: shamayim Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-mah-yim) Short Definition: heaven NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin from an unused word Definition heaven, sky NASB Translation astrologers* (1), compass (1), earth (1), heaven (191), heaven and the highest (2), heaven and the highest heavens (1), heaven of heavens (1), heavenly (3), heavens (151), heavens and the highest (1), highest heaven (1), highest heaven (1), highest heavens (4), horizons (1), other* (1), sky (50). ................ .................... the first heaven is the sky The second heaven was where the sun, stars, and moon was. The third heaven was the dwelling place of God. When Paul said he was caught up to the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2), he was referring to the very dwelling place of God. ...... King James Bible I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven......................... .... now I believe when Jesus died he made it possible for all of us to go to heaven look what happened when Stephen died Acts 7:55 King James Bible But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, Acts 7:59 King James Bible And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. Acts 7:60 King James Bible And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. 2837. koimaó from NG2749 ► Strongs Concordance koimaó from NG2749: sleep, fall asleep, die Original Word: κοιμάομαι Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: koimaó from NG2749 Phonetic Spelling: (koy-mah-o) Short Definition: I fall asleep, am asleep Definition: I fall asleep, am asleep, sometimes of the sleep of death. ....... PS.. in Revelation theres also people in heaven standing by the throne in heaven... and also in Hebrews 11:5 King James Bible By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Definition for translated is 3331. metathesis ► Strongs Concordance metathesis: a change, removal Original Word: μετάθεσις, εως, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: metathesis Phonetic Spelling: (met-ath-es-is) Short Definition: change, transformation, removal Definition: (a) change, transformation, (b) removal. ............ God could have translated him to Abrahams bosom at the time ......... please pray about everything I have post I could always be wrong.!!!!!
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