Hi guys (Hannah - guys is now legally a non-discriminatory word so no offense intended), Here is the article we have started discussing with some comments added: from Mick Marshall: Hi Pete, Interesting article, and has reminded me of a discussion I had with an exercise physiologist many years back about the effect of doing rotator cuff strengthening exercises prior to a upper body strength session. His thoughts were that training small stability muscles prior to doing heavy strength work could potentially fatigue them and prevent them from working at their optimum during the remainder of the session. Personally I think it is sensible to do prehab/rehab training in both fresh and fatigue states. And I think the same goes for trunk/stability/core training. The controlled nature of the training is a good point and I would certainly question the amount of transfer that occurs from that environment to the playing/competition field however I think there must be some and from my point of view enough benefit to include it in the training program. Currently I do most prehab/rehab work at the start of our strength sessions with core/trunk work done at the end of sessions, we do separate trunk/core sessions regularly in the program. I will plan some strength sessions though immediately after skill sessions so that they are training under fatigue. Id be interested in others thought, but this is just my quick ideas on the topic. Great idea regarding the facebook/linkedin group (either suits me) would be a good way for us all to stay in touch even when we are busy. Cheers Mick From Matt Wilkie: Hi Pete, A Tassie S&C group sounds great, it would be great to get everyones ideas on different topics as it relates to their sport/athletes. Im easy with whichever format you go for. Great article and some interesting research, especially the maintenance of eccentric hamstring strength when training was performed in a fatigued state. I had read a blog a couple of weeks ago, similar to Mick, on Rotator cuff muscles and whether they should be fatigued (thesportsphysio.wordpress/2014/12/31/the-rotator-cuff-to-fatigue-or-not-to-fatigue/). There are some interesting point of views in there and a bit of a devils advocate on whether fatigue of these muscles causes impingement or not and general training to fatigue in a rehab situation. It made me think about how much activation work is done before throwing, bowling or a strength session for the cricketers. Like you said Pete, this may be fine for most but fatiguing for some. I think most of us seem to leave core strengthening exercises until the end of a session, so maybe during different training blocks, these other activation/rehab exercises could be included at the end of a session when fatigued. Cheers, Matt. Anyone else got some comments?
Posted on: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 06:20:39 +0000
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