I couldnt leave this exchange just sitting in the group she posted it in, or even know what set her off, but jenny kastner, one of the leading ladies of the progressive jewish left posted this in the reason Israel has no right to exist The irony in your long explanation of the basis for Zionism is that Jewish nationalism was a creation of secular Jews who suffered greatly under European anti-Jewish racism, particularly in Eastern Europe. Several countries were considered fair game for the imposition of a Jewish state, including Uganda and Alaska! (Id like to see the biblical justification for those...!). The reality is that European anti-Jewish racism was the motivating force for Jewish nationalism and the early Zionists even offered Zionism - this time involving the theft of Palestine - as the solution to Europes Jewish problem in a letter to Britains Lord Balfour. Debating the so--called biblical justifications only lends credence to the outrageous claims of a secular, racist and colonialist ideology. my response: frustratingly preposterous isnt it? binny made it simple for us. god promised the land to all the Abrahamic people, not just the jews. Deuteronomy 8 and 11 very clearly say they cant do it the way theyre doing it or hashem will destroy them for trying. further, when the second temple was sacked, we were ordered not to try to form a government anywhere until messiah came to do it for us, but now were in the Talmud. thats not the law, but commentary on it with lots of bizarre debates about specific applications of the law.. we were raised American jews, so our constitution ranked as a holy document too. everything about the state of Israel conflicts with American principles of justice on top of being in violation of Hebrew law
Posted on: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:51:03 +0000