Learn to do good; Seek justice, Reprove the ruthless, Defend the orphan, Plead for the widow. “COME NOW, AND LET US REASON TOGETHER,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool. “If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land; “But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword.” Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken. Isaiah 1:17-20 My FB friends, we have got to get down to the nitty gritty about what has/is going on in this earth’s reality. Nothing is as it seems!!! Most of you are real deep thinkers and you question everything. I want to deal with something which I am sure will make many of you uncomfortable, as it has for myself. I am just asking the hard questions. COME NOW, AND LET US REASON TOGETHER. Where did the Trinity come from? When was it accepted as settled church doctrine? This is something that is accepted as if the Messiah introduced it as He was leaving this planet sometime between 29-36AD. Matt 28:18-20 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” The Trinity was introduced during the Nicea Council in 325AD. When Constantine became the first Christian leader of the Roman Empire in the 4th century, his vast territory was populated by a hodgepodge of beliefs and religions. Within his own young religion, there was also dissent, with one major question threatening to cleave the popular cult — as it was at the time — into warring factions: Was Jesus divine, and how? Its hard to imagine riots in the streets, pamphlet wars and vicious rhetoric spawned by such a question, but that was the nature of things in A.D. 325, when Constantine was forced to take action to quell the controversy. That summer, 318 bishops from across the empire were invited to the Turkish town of Nicea, where Constantine had a vacation house, in an attempt to find common ground on what historians now refer to as the Arian Controversy. It was the first ever worldwide gathering of the Church. The Christianity we know today is a result of what those men agreed upon over that sticky month, including the timing of the religions most important holiday, Easter, which celebrates Jesus rising from the dead. Young religion Christianity was young and still working out the kinks when Constantine took power over the Roman Empire in A.D. 306. Christian doctrine at the time was muddled and inconsistent, especially when it came to the central question of Jesus relationship to God. Jesus was as eternally divine as the Father, said one camp led by the Archbishop Alexander of Alexandria. Another group, named the Arians after their leader Arius the preacher, saw Jesus as a remarkable leader, but inferior to the Father and lacking in absolute divinity. Supporters on both sides scrawled graffiti on town walls in defiance while bishops from across the empire entered into a war of words as the controversy simmered to a head in 324. Fearing unrest in his otherwise peaceful territory, Constantine summoned the bishops to his lake house in Nicea on June 19, 325. Savvy move In a savvy move that would put todays shrewd politicians to shame, the compromise proffered by Constantine was vague, but blandly pleasing: Jesus and God were of the same substance, he suggested, without delving too much into the nature of that relationship. A majority of the bishops agreed on the compromise and voted to pass the language into doctrine. Their statement of compromise, which would come to be known as The Nicene Creed, formed the basis for Christian ideology. The bishops also used the Council of Nicea to set in stone some church rules that needed clarification, and those canons were the reference point after which all future laws were modeled. As a final order of business, the bishops decided upon a date for the holiest of Christian celebrations, Easter, which was being observed at different times around the empire. Previously linked with the timing of Passover, the council settled on a moveable day that would never coincide again with the Jewish holiday — the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the vernal equinox. (livescience) We understand the gospels of the Bible were probably written many years after the death of the Messiah by people who may not have actually known the Messiah but knew Him through verbal/oral text. (There is a good deal of information on this on the internet which you can do further research.) Is it just me or do you see that the Messiah is talking about the Trinity in approximately 292 years before it was placed into doctrine in 325AD? Now when the Messiah was baptized by John the Baptist, a dove called the Holy Spirit landed on His shoulder and a voice from heaven spoke “This is my Son in whom I am well pleased.” The Holy Spirit was named on many occasions in both the OT and NT before the Messiah talks about the Trinity. So what did the Messiah say? John 14: 16 I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper (Gr Paracletos, one called alongside to help; or Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor), that He may be with you forever; 17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you. (You will find in other versions the use of the word Comforter or Helper then in parentheses or added, Holy Spirit,.) Is it just me or from this verse are we to understand this Helper is in fact the Father and/or the Son? The verse which is constantly quoted in order to give credence to the Trinity is: John 10: 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, (One early ms reads What My Father has given Me is greater than all) who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one (Or a unity; or one essence).” UNITY 1. the state or quality of being one; oneness 2. the act, state, or quality of forming a whole from separate parts 3. something whole or complete that is composed of separate parts 4. mutual agreement; harmony or concord: the participants were no longer in unity. 5. uniformity or constancy: unity of purpose. ESSENCE 1. the characteristic or intrinsic feature of a thing, which determines its identity; fundamental nature 2. the most distinctive element of a thing: the essence of a problem 3. a perfect or complete form of something, esp. a person who typifies an abstract quality: he was the essence of gentility The Picture below: This is called The Shield of the Trinity or Scutum Fidei diagram of traditional Western Christian symbolism. The Star of David is widely recognized as the symbol of the Jews and of the state of Israel. Before the forming of the modern state of Israel, the vehicles of the Jewish agency used the star as a symbol. Once Israel gained her freedom, the star was placed on her flag. Jewish businesses for centuries have used the star on their signs and on their windows to announce to other Jews that this was a kosher business. Even the Nazis used the six-pointed star as a symbol of the Jews. But, where did this symbol come from, what does it mean, and why is it called the Star of David? There is nothing in scripture that gives us a hint as to the origin, or meaning of the Star of David. However, Jewish tradition tells us that God gave the symbol of the six-pointed star to King David as a symbol of his kingdom. Actually, the Star of David isnt a six-pointed star, but more properly drawn, it is two equilateral triangles, intertwined with each other. The first triangle stands for the trinity of God (Father, Son, & Spirit), and forms an arrow pointed down. (Please note that the Jews understand this as representing the three parts of God, but they do not accept the idea of the trinity, only God the Father). The second triangle represents the trinity of man (spirit, soul, & body), and forms an arrow pointed up. The two are intertwined because together they symbolize the Messiah or, as Christians know Him, the Christ. He is the only one who can be God reaching down to man and man reaching up to God at the same time. He is the only one who unites the two to become one. (maranathalife) I am not here to change any of your minds. I am just asking some important questions of why we believe what we believe. Could the Scriptures been tampered with? Could they have been structured in such a way to go along with accepted doctrine and theology of the times? Why was it necessary for the Romans to totally decimate any groups which were outside of the religious system they were setting up? Could the Prince of this World have used certain government officials (Constantine) and religious leaders (the early Roman Church leaders) to set up a religion which contained some truth but much of the pagan thought and doctrines of their day? What came first? The NT Scripture then the Doctrine or the Doctrine and then the NT Scripture? We ask – You decide!!!
Posted on: Sat, 17 May 2014 13:24:46 +0000
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