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Patriots and Citizens hear the words of the people for the people and by the people :Tomorrows Civil War: If we get to that point: if secession actually ever happens again. History does repeat itself so it is not off the table or out of the question. What would it be about? Poor versus Rich? The American citizenry versus the government? I am leaning more toward some event such as the dollar falls out from under us. Milk and bread sky rocket along with everything else. We have huge income gaps between the middle class communities where the idea of if I work really hard and fight for it, I too can have success is not going away but gone. We know that it’s only getting worse. Someone in Texas begins to lead the charge. Why Texas? Its 14th largest economy in the world the only State in the union that if it left; it could grow on its own without the need of imports or exports. It is literally a self-sustaining State. So what happens? Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, North and South Carolina, Missouri, North and South Dakota, Arizona, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Utah would likely go with them. Why those States? It is a smart political move. It is not a Red or Blue issue. Once you take a good hard deep look into Texas you would realize how deeply that State affects your daily life. I do not think that this time around that the United States government could reform the union. There would simply be too much to overcome. So if it happened. It wouldn’t be the same chaotic war that costs so many American lives. Last year the United States and the rest of the U.N. signed an agreement regarding rebellion and insurrection in U.N. countries. The agreement states that before any actions there must be U.N. peace keepers to negotiate. In other words, global politics become involved before a shot can be fired. To top it all off the laws surrounding insurrection and rebellion only allow the Federal Government to become involved in such acts IF the State Government is in danger of being over thrown. In which case of secession is not the case. The Secession Question: So at the end of the day the Federal Government refused to answer the petitions. It’s really a tricky duck. How do you answer it and not cause more damage? The reason for this is that to not answer is a PR nightmare and to answer is as well. Not answering won’t make this go away, it will just make it louder. Our American passion for calling people out…. As much as I hate to say it, we are all about to find out exactly where we stand in our Statehood. The odd part is that I can’t find a single shred of legal paper that specifically says that the Federal Government can say is what states are allowed to leave it. That is reserved to the States by the 10th Amendment of the Constitution. (debatable but applicable) There are no laws on the books regarding if secession is illegal or not or even the legal means in which to go about it. In other words: Power is limited to the Federal Government by that which is in the Constitution, nor prohibited by the States, are reserved to the States or the people. Since the Insurrection Act is not an article or amendment to the Constitution it is null. At the point of a State who submits to leave the Union. The flip side is that the State and its citizens are also no longer guaranteed the rights under the Constitution. In fact the United States must yield to the UN to intercede primarily before it can employ military force in such a matter. That is to say if it follows its own rules regarding rebellion in NATO countries. Making Article I Section 8 of the Constitution “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;” the only legally applicable action in the event of Insurrection. The Insurrection Act and all others applications go out the window legally as soon as a Governor and the States Federal Representatives walk through that door. When that door swings closed the State takes its militia (National Guard) with it. Saying Yes means that someone somewhere will start to petition their State for it. Saying No means that the federal government “will not peacefully” allow a State to leave the union raising the Military vs. Civilian question to the forefront and somewhere someone will test this theory. In which case is an alarming situation with dire consequences and could becomes another possible Kent State or Boston Massacre leading to another Shays Rebellion or potentially the second Civil War. The part that is really freaky is that the Insurrection Act of 1807 rev. 2006-7 does not apply to States leaving the Union but to Citizens revolting against their State Government. In other words there is still NO LAW that says a State cannot leave the Union. The Federal Government is prohibited from Stepping in UNLESS it is an insurrection against the State Government. § 331. Federal aid for State governments Whenever there is an insurrections in any State against its government, the President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into Federal service such of the militia of the other States, in the number requested by that State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to suppress the insurrection. § 332. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State or Territory by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion. § 333. Major public emergencies; Iinterference with State and Federal law (a) USE OF ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES.– (1) The President , by using the militia ormay employ the armed forces , or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to, including the National Guard in Federal service, to– (A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that– (i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and (ii) such violence results in a condition described in paragraph (2); or (B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if it– such insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2). (2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that– (1) (A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that State or possession, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2)(B) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. (3) In any situation covered by clause (1) paragraph (1)(B), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution. (b) NOTICE TO CONGRESS.– The President shall notify Congress of the determination to exercise the authority in subsection (a)(1)(A) as soon as practicable after the determination and every 14 days thereafter during the duration of the exercise of the authority. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution. Section 1076 of H.R. 5122.ENR allows the President to: “…employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to… restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States…, where the President determines that,…domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy…” This act attempts to nullify the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C. 331-335) and gives the President the legal ability to declare Martial Law under any condition he so chooses. The Posse Comitatus Act outlaws willful use of any part of the US Military to execute the law unless expressly authorized by the Constitution or an Act of Congress. History supplies the grist for an argument that the Constitution prohibits military involvement in civilian affairs subject to only limited alterations by Congress or the President, but the courts do not appear to have ever accepted the argument unless violation of more explicit constitutional command could also be shown. The provision for express constitutional authorization when in fact the Constitution contains no such express authorizations has been explained alternatively as a meaningless political face saving device or as an unartful reference to the President’s constitutional powers. The express statutory exceptions include the legislation which allows the President to use military force to suppression insurrection, 10 U.S.C. 331-335, and sections which permit the Department of Defense to provide federal, state and local police with information and equipment, 10 U.S.C. 371-381. Calling for exile of or treason to discuss the possibility of secession is by immediate proxy the same principles as I dare say Hitler and the Third Reich. Excerpts from Declaration of Independence (This is nothing other than a declaration of war): When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. It is your responsibility as an American citizen to protect not the government but the principles of this nation. “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” – Benjamin Franklin Writer Thomas Paine published his pamphlet “Common Sense,” setting forth his arguments in favor of American independence. Originally published anonymously, “Common Sense” advocated independence for the American colonies from Britain and is considered one of the most influential pamphlets in American history. Credited with uniting average citizens and political leaders behind the idea of independence, “Common Sense” played a remarkable role in transforming a colonial squabble into the American Revolution. This is a modern re-working of the “Common Sense” premise of Thomas Paine, work is not my own, However very worth reading. When a silent majority allows its nation to lose its common sense. That nation is lost. Is it common sense to adorn the alter of multiculturalism? Read your world history. Not one nation has survived as a multicultural. It is the Uni culture that is our strength. One Country, One Culture, One Language. Is it common sense that 84% of the people want to make English the official language but the majority political party is spouting this is insanity and ignores the people and says no. Is it common sense that 53 countries mostly in Africa have declared English their official language? And the party who declares “we will unite you” says press 2 for Spanish! Is it Common sense to adopt this new national religion of diversity. The very meaning of the word is disunity! We have a country founded on similarities! Not Diversity! One Country, One Culture, One Language. You cry out for unity! but is it common sense to identify yourselves by your ethnicity and not your nationalism! “White” – America, “Black” – America , “Chinese” – America , “Hispanic” – America , “Gay and Lesbian” – America , The “Black” Causcus, The “Hispanic” Caucus, The “Womans” Caucus, You want Unity? Change your language! Isn’t it time we all just became plain Americans? Or is that to much common sense? Is it your new common sense to stand up and cheer when a president wants to hand over the healthcare system to the same government who has run social security, medicare and medicaid, and twelve other entitlement programs into bankruptcy? A government bureaucracy that can not run a railroad! Your airports, secure your borders, or find 15-20 million illegal aliens. That same government that allows Islamic women to take their driver license photos wearing a neck scarf that covers their face because it offends their beliefs! Whats next allowing the Klu Klux Klan wearing their hoods? Is it common sense to bankrupt the American treasury? Fighting wars for countries who silent majorities wont fight for themselves? your debt is now 16.2 Trillion Dollars. Is it common sense to continue to give away 9 billion dollars of tax payer money to unfriendly countries and foreign aid including 2 billion dollars a year to Egypt who votes against the United States 80% of the time in the United Nations. All this while your own inner cities crumble. 40% of your high school graduates can only read or write at a fourth grade level. We have to import people from India or China for our tech industry. Because we haven’t enough smart people in America. This is madness. We must lay down our misplaced global burden and rebuild America first! We cannot support the world while neglecting our own country. Are we unifying America with common sense when politicians cry out we must show compassion for the 15-20 million illegal immigrants in this country? But not word of compassion for the overburdened American tax payer who is forced to subsidize these invaders by paying over 250 billion dollars of their hard earned money to establish America as the welfare department of a failed corrupt foreign country. Are you unifying America with common sense by sending out your utility bills and social security checks in Spanish? Legal and illegal immigrants have no incentive to learn our unifying culture and language because we make it easy for them not to assimilate. How many of you write in big letters across that bill ENGLISH ONLY PLEASE. Stop bending over backwards to accommodate every other culture than your own. Is it common sense to allow your activist judges to ignore your culture your history your Declaration of Independence and every other founding document? Endowed by their “CREATOR” certain inalienable rights. It does not say what or which creator. It is ambiguous! The fact that we have the RIGHT to believe as we wish is in jeopardy. Is it common sense to allow our beliefs as individuals to be circumvented by our government? To have us bend or force us against our protected beliefs? Is it common sense that the very party who claims to be the party of the people and shouts “We will bring change” persistently stops all common sense legislation to secure your borders. Establish workplace verification and stop tax payer money for illegals? They call themselves “progressive”, “Global thinkers”, There was another word for them in 1776. They were called Traitors! This happened all once before, 236 years ago. It led to Revolution and thousands of dead in the streets. It will happen again unless we take back America now. Perhaps you allow all of this out of a distorted notion of Tolerance. Aristotle once said: Tolerance is the last remaining virtue of a dying nation. We are tolerating the behavior that is destroying us. Wine, Rich and full of body and color. Once you dilute it with enough water it ceases to be wine and is simply water. No president or political party can save us now. Only an aroused citizenry can turn this uncommon sense around.
Posted on: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 12:56:18 +0000

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