Reuben:New devt is that a lawyer has gone to court to petition the CJ to swear in the DP as a president on ground that prezo UK addressed parliament yesterday was gud as tendering his resignation. What q rediculous!!!!!Mbatia:Reuben that lawyer is yet to read constitution to understand it gist ha ha haKen:kamau wa mbatia tru truRichard:Mbatia which constitution have you read than that lawyer???Riichard:What Uhuru did is the obvious, who doesnt know that when the head is not there the assistant is in charge??Richard:If still you cant perform some key duties then acting for what??Mbatia:Richard article 147 is clear in absence of preso depo technicality become president.Whatever happened yesterday was only meant to entertain sycophant and Illeterate lawyer like the one who went ti court.By the way, Ruto have been acting president severally since they joined power.Unfortunately the 2010 yes crusader realised yesterday.The no crusader(pointing to myself) we were aware of all thatMbatial:Richard our constitution Is our constant north.It specify what to do and if you are not comfortable then call for a referendum because you blindly passed a wrong constituionReuben:Ken, a president is a God chosen. David was anointed but did not bcome a king until Saul left the throne. Lets not talk of 2022 when we ar not yet in 2015. When time comes we will cross.Richard:Am telling you all this is out of fear that RAO might sneak into state house and game over.Fred:CORD no worries United we stand divided we fall ; thats one of the manifesto for Jubilee GovernmentMbatia:Richard our constitution Is our constant north.It specify what acting preso to do and if you are not comfortable then call for a referendum because you blindly passed a wrong constituionFred:Kamau avoid panic mode of power is the rules and regulations of ICC .Mbatia:[7:58pm, 10/7/2014] Kamau wa Mbatia: Richard our constitution Is our constant north.It specify what acting preso to do and if you are not comfortable then call for a referendum because you blindly passed a wrong constituion[8:01pm, 10/7/2014] Kamau wa Mbatia: Richard Rao to sneak to statehouse he he he till the sun grow cold he will never see the house at the hill....start grooming kidero and you will make it but Rao no no noRichard:Ati constitution!!! Kenya is sovereignty country with its constitution a supreme document that anything inconsistent to it is null and void. You cannot try a sitting president in any court, why are this European countries playing with us to this extent??? I wonde why Uhuru breaks our constitution and he swore to protect it.Reuben:Mbatia, the preso revoked article 147 on ground that he left the country as ordinary citizen and the DP is on acting capacity. We knw very well that while acting there is an allowance unlike whenits part of ua duty. As we talk, Ruto is our preso and when the man UK is back, he will resume where Ruta has reached. Let no one panic.Mbatia:Richard haki you are cracking my rib due to laughter.Why did you say yes to constitution which you didnt understand.what sovereignty are you talking about.Hear the truth of legal expert article 143:4 says the immunity of the president under this article shal not extend to a crime for which the president may be prosecuted under any treaty yo which Kenya is party and which prohibits such immunity....when I checked last time we are signatory to Rome statute.....did u say Rao the most powerful....I have just fainted because hes nothingReuben:Reuben please. Note uhuru didnt go as private citizen but rather he went as president and left someone else acting.Charles Nyachae clarified the same last night.Otherwise uhuruto are only sending message to Bensouda that shes yet to understand how Kenya law operate....its a trap to Bensouda and face save from AU head who had advised him not to attend(he only wanted to evade warrant of arrest)Reuben:Mbatia, there is a difference btn acting and deputizing or assisting. Pls check the meaning. Ruto has never acted instead he has been deputising. Read the duties of the DP. Preso left as Mr. UK though us knw that hes Kenya preso.Mbatia:Reuben thanks God I was defeating you when it came to law.Recall law can be implied and expressed.What uhuru did yesterday is whats referred as express since written but remembe uhuru have been in new York twice this year.What does that tell you?.Ruto technically was an acting president inline with our new constitution 2010 dispensation.kwani nyinyi ni wawapiRichard:Mbatia seems to be reading some funny documents most likely governing wale wazee niliona yesterday dressed funly in a forest facing a given direction ati they are praying for someone. If so as your interpretation charges levelled against our leaders are of crime in nature and according to you the Rome statute is supreme then why were they allowed to run for such top posts?? Do you know that its the country Kenya being humiliated internationally?Mbatia:Richard am holding the constitution 2010 and thats what am using to debate.Uhuruto were allowed to vie because they are innocent till proven guilty.If guilty chapter 6 leadership and intergrity would eliminate them.Remember chapter 4 that of our bill of rightMbatia:Reuben when uhuru wasnt round Ruto was acting president only that no one took interest to understand the gist of the law.Its not a different thing from whats happening nowMbatia:I can say from the top of tree come 2022 Ruto will get overwhelming support from mt Kenya based on what our grandmother and grandfather are saying.Its the right of people to argue kikuyu never support others but I can bet my head.....people are talking good of Ruto in centralReuben:Gekoyo, but Ruto has never been in UKs limousine. This is the first time. The preso revoke article 147. The contention is interpretation of the law. Remember I have been always smart than u on interpretation.Mbatia:Limousine he he he is that what you are using as gauge?.I walk away in protestReuben:For not, Ruta can nt declare war not sack any body bt he is in charge.Mbatia:Reuben article 147 is even invoked whether implied or via express mean.....that article explain under what circumstances.I.e incapacited eg ill.Assume hes ill and not able to sign documents, does it mean Ruto cant be acting he he heMbatia:Reuben true his duty are limited by constitution the reason am saying uhuru is still president as per Charles Nyachae arguementReuben:Mbatia, I agree with u entirely that man UK is our president bt he left the country on personal matters nyt on official duties. When ua boss assigns u duties u report to him/her but when u ar acting u review other employees reports. This iis the scenario here. Usiku mwema.Mbatia:I concur he went on his own personal mattersReuben:Gud. Nw we are reading from the same script. I always win.������������Mbatia:Ha ha ha ha winning what.we were not arguing about whether it was personal matter because that was not debateable...we were arguing whether he went as president and whether article 147 is implied/express interpreted.On that one you got zero.On personal matter you were only shadow boxingAndrew:my people am here ur president. how can u forget about mi?Reuben:Our futuure preso. We will nurture u nt u are yet to dance on the song we are composing.Sent from Samsung Mobile
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