Rocky et all, Just in case its deleted, here is the copy/paste of those comments... Jeanne Eweg Vincent I have always wanted to some dabbling in it, but too scared...knowing you have my back makes me think about it. I love to gamble that is why Tom never moved me to Vegas October 8 at 5:35am · Unlike · 1 Rob Klatt This is much better then Vegas because we are allowed to count the cards Jeanne, lol October 8 at 5:41am · Like Rob Klatt for example lets use the DOW(top thirty companies) you can buy or sell the ETF DIA(Diamond) it moves one on one, meaning if it moves up one dollar you make a dollar had you bought one share and loose a dollar had you sold one share...they have also have 2x and 3x , means you win or loose 2x and 3x had you bought those ETFs... look at the chart youll see it has been coming down 11 out of the last 14 days... I AM A CONTRARIAN, so with this government shutdown this market could crash a lot more so I would buy here soon especially if it crashes, so waiting for more weakness, but if your aggressive you could buy or sell here.incomeinvesthome/investing/etf/dia.htm Rob Klatts photo. October 8 at 6:35am · Like Jeanne Eweg Vincent Rob this is all greek to me..but very interesting October 8 at 8:14am · Like Rob Klatt the greeks are mainly in the language about the sensitivities of a OPTION...these greeks are Delta, Gamma, Vega, and Theta(time sensitivity)...not many greeks in ExchangeTradedFunds, they are shares you buy and sell that mimic the underlying, DIA pretty liquid ETF it is a ETF that mimics the DJX(dow jones index) thes are thirty companies in each sector of the market......options are a lot more complicated ...In essence, every option strategy - no matter how complicated they are - comes down to a combination of buying and selling call and put options at various strike prices and exipration dates. Different combinations of these basic building blocks of option trading are used to suit the investors risk profile and market outlook. Are you bullish, neutral or bearish on a particular stock? Are you prepared to risk more or prefer a more conservative strategy? Do you prefer to monitor your trades daily or buy a position and wait till expiration? Whatever your preferences are, theres an option strategy for you. This guide will cover some of the more advanced options strategies such as butterflies and iron condors. October 8 at 12:29pm · Like Rob Klatt Here are pictures of what happened yesterday and today, what adjustments were made and what type of trading vehicles...in this case I bought a ETF that make money if the implied volatility moves up(spikes) the market usually is moving down in price when this happens...I bought 40 TVIX because I already had some, did this yesterday I should have bought a thousand shares of this 2x1 ETF it was up over 10%! today and the other trades were adjustment I made today to raise my cash from 39% to 70% look at piechart...6% in options Rob Klatts photo. October 8 at 1:53pm · Like Rob Klatt Rob Klatts photo. October 8 at 1:57pm · Like Rob Klatt Here are the adjustment made over the last five days, mainly raising cash levels,why? because I think the market will continue lower... and a picture of the screen of all the vehicles I am trading.Hope pictures make it easier for you to understand Jeanne and Adam Bia Bea Rob Klatts photo. October 8 at 2:15pm · Like Rob Klatt So Adam Bia Bea and Jeanne Eweg Vincent to sum it up,,, You have to 1...develop a continuing knowledge base 2.... TAKE RISK(assumption of risk) ,,, 3....Manage this risk ... Rob Klatts photo. October 8 at 4:14pm · Edited · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Interesting very interesting October 8 at 4:28pm via mobile · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent So whats the main Greek that you follow that you base most of your trades off of? October 8 at 4:29pm via mobile · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Do you have a core position in stocks and trade options as hedging opportunities or at you in just options October 8 at 4:30pm via mobile · Like Rob Klatt No, not really. THIS IS SPECULATION CAPITOL. I have to take this to mega bucks using mini and micro futures as a vehicle like MGC(MICRO GOLD) ES(E-MINI=S&P MINI FUTURES)YM(DOW MINI FUTURES, AND NQ(NASDAQ MINI FUTURES) I also, as you noticed, options mainly buying them, ETFs 1x1 2x1 3x1 and Beta stocks, stocks that move fast up and down. October 8 at 4:38pm · Like Rob Klatt thx for reply October 8 at 4:40pm · Like Rob Klatt main greek is implied volatility, but it does not dictate what trades, it helps develop a read/feel for the market.....this speculation money... its money I am able and willing to loose in order to make millions .... short term I am trying to get to 50k by Feb 2014 and the options, which represent 6.5% of portfolio, could take it there. October 8 at 7:14pm · Edited · Like Rob Klatt Arent charts wonderful? Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 5:49am · Like Rob Klatt We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. 1 JOHN 5:19 Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 5:50am · Like Rob Klatt Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 5:52am · Like Rob Klatt Goldman says gold will be slam dunk sell, look like gold bottom is very close. My bet is one month before ECB flush its own QE. If ECB does rate cut at Nov 1st week and QE at Dec 1st week. You do the math. October 9 at 6:06am · Like Rob Klatt If republicans are real this time, they should block dovish Yellen Fed chairman who will prolong bernanke money scam to 2014 mid term election (need 6 more republican senates to pass 60 votes). Tough call here. October 9 at 6:07am · Like Rob Klatt obama will give in before Oct 17 deadline, now the problem is, ECB rate cuts and QE. This will weaken the euro and strength the USD (cancel some of the US QEs pump). Will this have negative impact to stock, gold, and oil as usual? October 9 at 6:36am · Like Rob Klatt ah: no crash yet as long as QEs keep coming, obama just toying the market to say wall street should get serious about the shut down. But he knows well, he has all the control. obama wont let the market crash to screw up the 2014 mid term election. October 9 at 6:47am · Like Rob Klatt December S&P E-mini Futures: Today’s day session range estimate is 1651-1665. Yesterday the S&P and the advance-decline line joined the Dow below their respective 50 day moving averages. The prognosis now is for a drop to 1599 where the break from the September 19 top would equal the size of the May-June drop. A move in the ES back above 1700 would mean that the recent drop has been only a normal reaction in an uptrend and that the market is headed for new highs. October 9 at 6:57am · Like Rob Klatt legging in two positions, one 3x1 ETF NUGT , its 1000 gold miners ETF, for every dollar you win or loose 3 dollars, I bought 1 5th of intended position... also bought OLED, its bendable glass comp I made a thousand percent on this company before in less then a week using nearby options.......................... BOT 20 NUGT Stock 41. USD ARCA 06:42:49 1.00 BOT 25 OLED Stock 30.89 USD ISLAND 06:54:02 1.00 October 9 at 7:05am · Edited · Like Rob Klatt dont blame god...gold bug index Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 7:36am · Edited · Like Rob Klatt Jeanne Eweg VincentAdam Bia Bea....I copy/paste this ETF info from that first link I posted in the beginning of this thread.....I hope you at least read all the comments and replies I made to you.......One popular Exchange Traded Fund ETF tracks the 30 companies of the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA). This ETFs symbol is DIA, and the shares are commonly called Diamonds. The Diamond Exchange Traded Fund Represents the Dow Jones Industrial Average That is actually their official name: DIAMONDS, Trust Series 1, a unit investment trust. State Street and Bank is the trustee. Creation units are 50,000 or multiples of that. Dividends are paid monthly. Although most market professionals prefer to focus on the S&P 500 as more representative of the market as whole, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is still most recognized index in the world. To most Americans, the Dow Jones Average is the stock market And, although not perfectly correlated to the S&P 500, on most days they do pretty much the same, up or down. DIA has an expense ratio of 0.18%, and is traded on the American Stock Exchange. They have the third largest trading volume of all ETFs, behind Spiders (tracking the S and P 500) and Qubes (tracking the Nasdaq 100). The 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average and this ETF funds list are: United Technologies -- UTX 3M -- MMM International Business Machines -- IBM Caterpillar -- CAT American International Group -- AIG Johnson & Johnson -- JNJ Procter & Gamble -- PG Wal-Mart Stores -- WMT Coca-Cola -- KO Boeing -- BA American Express -- AXP Altria Group -- MO Merck & Co. -- MRK Citigroup -- C Exxon Mobil -- XOM General Motors -- GM E.I. DuPont de Nemours -- DD J.P. Morgan Chase -- JPM Honeywell International -- HON Verizon Communications -- VZ Home Depot -- HD Pfizer -- PFE General Electric -- GE Alcoa -- AA Microsoft -- MSFT McDonalds -- MCD Intel -- INTC Walt Disney -- DIS SBC Communications -- SBC Hewlett-Packard -- HP If youre an investor who prefers to stick with the very top companies of the U.S. economy instead of the more broad-based S and P 500, but you cant afford to buy shares in all 30 of the above companies, you can buy Diamonds, and that market price will closely track the performance of the Dow 30. These are the bluest of the blue chip stocks, and DIA is an easy way to match their performance. Therefore, Diamonds are an easy to invest in the performance of the overall Dow Jones Industrial Average. One Exchange Traded Fund is the most heavily traded security, by volume, in the world, and has the peculiar name of QQQQ, also known as Qubes, and it tracks the NASDAQ-100 index. October 9 at 8:32am · Like Rob Klatt Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 9:01am · Like Rob Klatt Alarm set at these two levels(yellow lines) for Visa...plan to buy March contracts in call options ... so that is one way that helps me decide(feel/read) to open a position and risk the cost of the option premium Adam Bia Bea Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 9:18am · Like Rob Klatt Went ahead and bought one March contract, which controls a hundred shares, target yellow line, near 200 my risk is $601 for the premium paid. If price on Visa comes down more and trigger alarms I will buy more... BOT 1 V MAR 21 14 200 Call Option 6.00 USD NASDAQOM 10:36:12 0.77 Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 12:01pm · Edited · Like Rob Klatt Obama live with Ben and Janet ... closed the nasdaq 2x1 ETF short raised $1980 cash ... SLD 100 QID Stock 19.80 USD SMART 12:10:11 1.03 Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 12:27pm · Like Rob Klatt Adam Bia Bea what caused this adjustment? it was a fundamental reason, a change in the Feds from Ben Bernanke to Janet Yellen who is very much like Ben in printing money every month for the tune of 80 billion....still short by holding the volatility ETF 2x1 TVIX and a lot of cash October 9 at 12:38pm · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent So is Janet taking Bens place? When do you think they will begin to taper the 85 bil bond purchasing. I know it was a huge surprise that we havent started yet. October 9 at 12:48pm via mobile · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Whats your thoughts on a NOV or DEC 170 put on TSLA October 9 at 12:51pm via mobile · Unlike · 1 Rob Klatt YES She is taking Bens place, first women ever! my guess is no taper till next year...I was not surprised and bought just before they announced a day and hour before the NO TAPER SPIKE, how did I know to adjust by taking on risk? contrarian view, talking heads were looking for taper, it was one of those moments where you do not want to take the trade and want the news first TSLA October 9 at 1:20pm · Like Rob Klatt if the market crashes these high flyers eat it big time and any put you buy or any call you sell will make money October 9 at 1:21pm · Like Rob Klatt When you ask me about TSLA long put I think of another time another high flyers that kept going up and up, I bought puts and lost because I was to early it didnt get creamed till years later,,,the company? KKD KrispyKremeDonuts, lol October 9 at 1:24pm · Like Rob Klatt TSLA looks like KKD in 1999 and 2000 , I started buying puts in 2000-2001-2002 ...heck KKD is making new yearly highs again...first chart is TSLA what KKD looked like in 1999 and 2000 Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 1:38pm · Like Rob Klatt Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 1:38pm · Like Rob Klatt see how it went sideway and up for years? October 9 at 1:39pm · Like Rob Klatt here yearly of TSLA, I might sell you those puts because it had a decent pullback and now will test those highs? lol Rob Klatts photo. October 9 at 1:43pm · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Yea but I think the valuation on TSLA is pretty high I feel they could have a bigger correction thats my reason for wanting to get those puts. But I can def see where you are coming from. October 9 at 3:07pm via mobile · Like Rob Klatt You should have seen Krispy Kremes valuation it was nuts for a donut fcol fps crazy world October 9 at 3:12pm · Like Rob Klatt nothing makes sense October 9 at 3:12pm · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Ahh the inevitable fundamentals mean nothing world we live in lol I understand what you mean. Jeez look at NFLX valuation for goodness sake October 9 at 3:32pm via mobile · Like Rob Klatt yes, fuzzy logic is what is needed Adam Bia Bea this mornings adjustments I could not capture the gains on my IV(implied volatility) ETF TVIX closed it at a small lose and bought some DANG... SLD 50 TVIX Stock 17.36 USD BEX 05:10:23 1.02 BOT 100 DANG Stock 10.20 USD ISLAND 05:37:37 1.00 should have bought TSLA after talking with you for a quick pop this am pre market! October 10 at 5:46am · Like Rob Klatt bought to open REGN October 10 at 6:00am · Like Rob Klatt Jeanne Eweg Vincent back to the ETF DIA diamonds we saw the low yesterday of 147 and now one minute after the open its above 149, that means you would have made two dollars+ per share bought, it is that simple, easier the lotto tickets, lol October 10 at 6:33am · Like Rob Klatt Bought YOKU and BIDU October 10 at 6:49am · Like Rob Klatt Notice the sensitivity in the options? mainly that Visa call we bought yesterday for 600, it popped above 700 October 10 at 7:20am · Like Rob Klatt btw Adam Bia Bea ... a small loss I consider a win like in the case of impied volatility play TVIX which had a great gain yesterday only to wake up and see it in the red loosing 55 bucks on this hedge play the gains on the QID(2x short nasdaq ETF) made up for that timing was great on that one. October 10 at 7:34am · Like Rob Klatt GOP Boehner give in at debt ceiling fight again, as expected, because GOP cant annoy the people who borrow them the money beside Fed. The worst case before Oct 17, oabam can increase it without GOP agree which will make GOP look bad if the debt ceiling fight continue. October 10 at 8:25am · Like Rob Klatt Rob Klatts photo. October 10 at 8:26am · Like Rob Klatt Adam, what you want your screen to look like, we were over 800 in the red this morning before the open and just now even the unrlzd is in the green!....so to go back to those simple rules&strategies...in a bull market any dips caused by fear or whatever, buy the dips...I will go copy/paste it again, brb Rob Klatts photo. October 14 at 11:05am · Like Rob Klatt Here it is, this is what I email Adam Bia Bea, it is in these writings...btw we had a 1000+dollar swing this morning if you can not read this picture!................................................................................Here is what I send y...See More October 14 at 11:16am · Like Rob Klatt de-americanized world, lol(LotsOfLuck...btw that one call I bought on V isa few days ago is up over fifty percent while the underlying issue is up 5% from where I entered the open risk of 600bucks! got it? October 14 at 11:29am · Like Rob Klatt I believe fb has put an end to this thread Jeanne...I can not post anymore pictures so Ill post it to you and Adam in a different thread October 14 at 11:35am · Like Rob Klatt V isa March call bought little over a week ago for 600 dollars now above $1300 with several months to go lets hope for a grand slam(400% $2400) by Feb 2014 --- notice the difference between buying shares and options? on V risk 600 on AAPL shares risk $...See More Rob Klatts photo. October 22 at 8:14am · Edited · Like Rob Klatt here is AAPL chart... Rob Klatts photo. October 22 at 8:07am · Like Rob Klatt Today ANR Jan 2014 calls was .05($50) expire third week in January, Up 125% from yesterday, have 50 of these ...my March calls are up 55% , have 40 of these. also have Dec calls 25 of those,,, my risk is what I paid for these near 2000, if I where to b...See More A 9.4% Bond Yield Strongly Worth Owning seekingalpha Alpha Natural Resources (ANR) issued $700 million in senior notes in 2011. The n...See More October 23 at 12:06pm · Edited · Like · Remove Preview Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Thats awesome I defiantly understand the leverage options provide just havent been able to figure out what will cause me to identify an option determine a strategy and pull the trigger on the trade. Once I figure out my top down approach to analyzing an option and pulling the trigger I hope to have some stories to tell. October 23 at 12:44pm via mobile · Like Rob Klatt Yes risking ten percent of your port can double your portfolio(100+ % )in a day! and thousand percent in just weeks and even in a few days!!! like I did with ARMH, PANL, YOKU, NTBK(netbank) Knight trading group and few others..............................See More October 23 at 3:59pm · Edited · Like Rob Klatt knowledge&wisdom are two different things.....You need to gain the wisdom, by not only, building a consistent knowledge base, but by LOOSING YOUR MONEY and wisdom will come quickly, October 24 at 6:08am · Like Rob Klatt Walter Energy WLT moving up this morning in sympathy with ANR(Alpha Natural Resources) up big again, maybe another 100% day for these call options, holding a bunch of March calls on WLT as well, lets hope these calls and the one V isa call will double this speculation account before Feb, before Xmas? heck before thanksgiving, lol October 24 at 6:58am · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Cross October 24 at 9:32am via mobile · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Crossing my fingers October 24 at 9:32am via mobile · Like Rob Klatt thx... here is what the mix looked like few days ago, green is cash, orange is options and blue is stock shares in AAPLE REGN MCP etf QID TVIX(short2x) a hedge...we started with 18,800 Rob Klatts photo. October 24 at 9:46am · Like Rob Klatt notice it stayed within 2 standard deviations from the mean...TVIX is a etf2x bet that implied volatility will spike up, usually when the market moves down October 24 at 9:49am · Like Rob Klatt The only thing worse than an angry young man, is an angry old fart Rob Klatts photo. October 24 at 9:57am · Like Rob Klatt My one day biggest gain was summer 2007, when my sisters came up to visit and Linda rented the house next door for a couple months. I had many options a lot more then stocks hardly no cash, kinda like being ALL IN....that day I almost gained 50,000 overnight.... just reflecting back October 24 at 10:04am · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent What do you think about some jan calls on GRPN October 25 at 9:11am via mobile · Like Rob Klatt You buying or selling the call? what strike? No opinion on groupon..looking at all the charts in different timeframes, it does look like a tradable buy...if your thinking of buying to open remember what is happening to TSLA long put? price has to move...See More Rob Klatts photo. October 25 at 9:52am · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Ahh didnt even look to see if GRPN had option oops. I just saw that GRPN had a nice retracement and could possibly go higher so I thought instead of buying the stock to buying a call. But kind of hard to do that when they dont have options for that stock : | October 25 at 10:35am via mobile · Like Rob Klatt They have options available...............................................Home Quotes News Industries Markets Historical Quotes BigReports GRPN Groupon Inc. (NASDAQ)...See More October 25 at 10:39am · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Whats a momo? October 25 at 10:59am via mobile · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Also you right about the chopping around for GRPN they have had a nice run this may be a consolidation period and maybe look at some feb calls October 25 at 11:01am via mobile · Like Rob Klatt High Beta issues, momo is movers and shakers October 25 at 11:07am · Like Rob Klatt Look at V isa chart....Here is a daily bar chart of one of the leaders of the current bull market, Visa (V). The IPO was in April 2008, not a great time to go public, and shortly afterward Visa hit 89.84 before dropping to a January 2009 low of 41.78. ...See More Rob Klatts photo. October 25 at 11:42am · Like Rob Klatt GMorning Adam & Jeanne Eweg Vincent hope this post finds you in good spirits...re:momo, it drives of momentum.....Adam another thing I do and forget to focus on often, is watching the leading indicators like the ES mini futures on a bar charts with m...See More October 29 at 8:53am · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Thanks for the advice Rob. Cali? I would love to come lol but dont have a date set yet. But Im sure you are referring to Jeanne. But if I do get a chance I would love to meet you some time and maybe even see your trading first hand. October 29 at 9:53am via mobile · Like Rob Klatt Adam Bia Be a wroteAdam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Whats your thoughts on a NOV or DEC 170 put on TSLA October 9 at 12:51pm via mobile · Like this my friend was a grand slam, over 400%! even though the first week your premium collapsed in half of more, great call! November 19 at 5:44am · Like Rob Klatt Luck has it here with burning TSLA vehicle(s) to make your call for a top pretty darn close within a week or so,Yea but I think the valuation on TSLA is pretty high I feel they could have a bigger correction thats my reason for wanting to get those puts. But I can def see where you are coming from. November 19 at 6:10am · Like Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent : ) lol ( lots of luck) thanks for the shout out. Just one more practice trade to write in my diary. One of these days I will be able to capitalize on these opportunities and losses, of course, for real. November 19 at 7:01am via mobile · Like Rob Klatt lotsofluck for those battery fires eh?....3 rules I learned, first rule, lots of real trades, second rule; continuing education..third rule; acquiring risk and managing that risk November 19 at 7:07am · Like Rob Klatt Just realized something Adam....the market knows you had no money at stake, so it showed you what if I woulda, coulda, shoulda! to sucker you in with real money, LOL November 19 at 11:27am · Like · 1 Adam Bia Bea · Friends with Jeanne Eweg Vincent Ha ha ha yea thats exactly what it did. I will make sure to continue with rule 2 perfect rule 3 then partaking action with rule 1 November 19 at 12:35pm via mobile · Like Rob Klatt
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