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So Chris Sonne, here it is – the start at least... I just listened back to the three short videos I made on the morning of August 12th when I woke. I expect that the best thing to do would be to transcribe them. But readers might be forewarned, the last part made me squawk about the challenge it presents me. The issue might not be something other people would see, with some presumptions I am not ready to publicly tackle. Here is a basic transcription of three short videos, me talking to myself, the last one entitled, “who redeems who?” (The few places I use brackets [ ... ] are present time comments as clarifications) Section 1 “I suppose it would be a good time to review the Genesis charge to man when he was designed and started off. Thinking about subduing... If... If you take away [ignore for now] multiply... If you talk about replenish its because the Earth was destroyed of inhabitants... If you take away multiplying and replenishing with people... replenishing with inhabitants, then the charge God gave man of subduing it is about all that there is. But what does it mean by subdue it? The garden needed absolutely no subduing. The animals didnt need to be conquered, because the animals were not harmful. [they are shown in the Genesis account to take on such aggression after the flood when they were opened up as a food source, something that the Noah movie made into a conflict between types of people in the story] They werent the problem. So somewhere there was a “deplenished” Earth. [maybe depleted is more accurate?] with things that needed to be subdued. It was a death and destruction. That was caused by beings… It had to be… because you cant subdue nothing, subduing requires a will thats contrary, something has to be overcome ... so something had to be overcome and it wasnt in the garden.. at first .. [as in no serpent was shown to be there, no adversary in the garden itself] it was lack of population ... lack of population was part of it, cuz replenishing means something had to have been depleted... and... So anyway the job was to... Bring the garden about to cover the whole place [earth] to have every enemy to it, bound or destroyed. Thats what priesthood always was and men always had one [priesthood]... [Later listening back I thought I was being a bit condemning perhaps, to say they only had the possibility of condemnation or death or some other from of destruction, since what about redeeming all creations? Lol dont worry its not that right now... I know that man so far has only been mans redeemer – or has he? Lol hints are my new hobby] Section 2 Priesthood has always been individual. Its been the first mans job and was the last mans job. It has been the job of every man. It was lost in the fog of condemnation. Condemnation is the inability to do and be who you are, who man is... Hes a son who is to get by in the world and enjoy God and others... and at the insinuation of evil, he is a priest... Luther was right … every man is a priest... every man who wallows in condemnation is too … but condemnation destroys their ability to bring back value to the Earth. [ :-) !! ] Section 3 after this Genesis thing that I talked about, about subduing and all that...it has to do with... Replenishing has to do with redemption...filling back up again...and… I need to talk about who redeems who...because... God was there without men... and God needed redemption and he made man as his Redeemer. He needed his Earth redeemed, he needed his creation redeemed, and this is where the... we presume that God could just crush Satan anytime [some unintelligible muttering which sounds like … “we get confused about it?” And a few syllables more] Its so important … now theres... I was going to say...it is a two-part thing, I was going to say it is so important, he couldnt just do it by force in a fight... he had to give his fight over to a referee ... a priest to decide for him. hes not going to fight in the street, he is going to win because of law. Thats why priesthood is everything, because property is everything... priesthood is the... not the taking back my stuff … but having someone acknowledge your cause and get your property back and return it to you … so the question who redeems who? is a big deal, Gods people think God is their Redeemer, God is not their Redeemer, man is their Redeemer but it really has a lot to do with God getting his property back … man is Gods Redeemer, and man is... mankind is … Gods property. Redemption is Gods salvation. One of the things about his salvation is about his reputation being fixed, his reputation should not have him as the destroyer of men. Hes not two-sided. aawwoohhh!...boy... I will write the article implied here Thursday if I can get it done. It will need lessons in property and plunder but hopefully quick ones. Oh old tired Joe, dont do it, wait until tomorrow please, well like Winnie the Pooh, just a taste? For now consider the Genesis account has as its introduction the amazing and I think fairly well known idea, that when it read it was without from and void the word was is actually became The earth became without form and was void. The idea being that former creation had been destroyed. I believe that law and redemption and property show this to be the case. Very likely the purpose of mankind was to be the judge in Gods case in controversy with his plunderer. If this is true, and one would have to have that pretty much on faith as no evidence would exist except perhaps evidence of animals that can not be today found if you will, but the real value of this is to see that Holy Spirit worked to restore and redeem a fallen creation, earth, and was the creative force or power of the new one. today when enemies have bound and destroyed and force condemnation on men, this Holy Spirit is the being who fills them back up and redeems by his law force, I believe his personal being force as that is who he is and not only what he does, if we see him as always redemptive force giving a harmed one, as the spirit of the law power of priesthood, his property back, we will see that his first recorded actions were redeeming the creation of earth, to something God Most High as Creator could ahve back as something good, and his advocates could begin, by Holy Spirits power and ministry, to restore. This power and force being known as Holy Spirit, was law force in the words of the son, the priest himself. The son priest as the redeemer and restorer first of Gods property, and then as the originator of a race that would redeem to the outskirts the fallen earth and all of its inhabitants, as priests who act on behalf of the harmed one - God himself. The judges. Yes folks Gods judges. Redemption is for the purpose of restoring the rights and well being of all men first, and next all creation as the restored men found their law legs and walked it out, but the purpose of it all if to redeem Gods earth from every death, theft and destruction his enemies had caused. The first and main one to get plundered was God himself. The next to get plundered were his creations he endowed with rights and privileges as his creations. Job 1 was getting his creatures restored and filled back up, because job 2 is getting God Most High himself restored and filled back up. Like the prefect gentleman, he lets us go first, but also because he needs us to be his judges. His ideal of course would have been with no delay by the fall and condemnation making the judges all recused. So learning to judge right is not just a behavior improvement program, it is a training camp for being able to be called on for - or to instigate of our own powerful wills - Gods redemption. So man is Gods redeemer it seems? So is that only Jesus? If so, why is the work seemingly unfinished after 20 centuries? 20 centuries of men asking God to do something to help us? hmm. Like what I wonder at at times? Send us a redeemer so we can become sons and do Gods will? What is this? A deja vu? That really sounds familiar, where have I heard that part before? What if Gods redeemer is me, or you? Will we think ourselves nothing until our chances pass like all the rest have in their condemnation steeped abdication? Well, not very many people have even thought such things as this, so the team is rather small. But then I recall promoting that priests are all individual and not a collective, so maybe it does not take a team at all? Sometimes, as in all the time, I struggle with how private to be. Who says things like this? I hope soon most of us will dare do so. Well that was a good hour. Much love my friend(s) God, we are keeping a light on for you. Let us get your room ready. We got cable? And a continental breakfast? You are on the docket for tomorrow...
Posted on: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:15:05 +0000

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