Some people mentioned the last post was from each or 08 or 09. His views or comments have not changed. There are still self-professed Christians who continue to promote the heresies and unbiblical teachings of Joel Osteen and his wife Victoria. Previously, we pointed out how Victoria Osteen said that our worship of God should be done for ourselves. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer, Osteen said that Barack Obama is a Christian. Osteen claims that he has been to prayer breakfasts and other event with Barack Obama and heard him express his faith, redemption and salvation. I just believe in my heart that hes a Christian, Osteen said. He says he is. Again, I wouldnt try and push people away, Osteen continued. Thats just the opposite of what were supposed to do. Now, lets just rehearse what Obama says his Christian faith is composed of, shall we? In a 2004 interview with Cathleen Falsani, Obama said that he draw(s) from (his) Christian faith, but then went on to talk about growing up with Eastern influences in Hawaii, Muslim influences in Indonesia, his father being an agnostic while his grandfather was a Muslim, and finishing off claiming that he was mostly influenced by Judaism. However, he claims to be rooted in the Christian tradition. Lets see how he stacks up to that Christian tradition. Obama told Falsani the following: I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.Of responding to an unbiblical altar call in Jeremiah Wrights church, Obama said, …it was a powerful moment. Because, it was powerful for me because it not only confirmed my faith, it not only gave shape to my faith, but I think, also, allowed me to connect the work I had been pursuing with my faith.Im a big believer in tolerance. I think that religion at its best comes with a big dose of doubt. Im suspicious of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding just because I think people are limited in their understanding.Jesus is an historical figure for me, and hes also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.(Jesus) a wonderful teacher. I think its important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I cant imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. Thats just not part of my religious makeup.(Sin is) being out of alignment with my values.(If you have sin in your life) if Im true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when Im not true to it, its its own punishment.(I find spiritual inspiration in) the black church experience. A good choir and a good sermon in the black church, its pretty hard not to be move and be transported. I can be transported by watching a good performance of Hamlet, or reading Toni Morrisons Song of Solomon, or listening to Miles Davis.(Though Obama doesnt read the Bible like he should (see below)) when I read Gandhi or I read King or I read certain passages of Abraham Lincoln and I think about those times where peoples values are tested, I think those inspire me.When I feel most centered, most aligned spiritually is when) Im being true to myself. And that can happen in me making a speech or it can happen in me playing with my kids, or it can happen in a small interaction with a security guard in a building when Im recognizing them and exchanging a good word.(In referencing his altar call experience) It wasnt an epiphany. It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them. For me it was probably because there is a certain self-consciousness that I possess as somebody with probably too much book learning, and also a very polyglot background. When asked about prayer and Bible reading, Obama said, I used to all the time, in a fairly disciplined way. But during the course of this campaign, I dont. And I probably need to and would like to, but thats where that internal monologue, or dialogue I think supplants my opportunity to read and reflect in a structured way these days. Friends, nothing in Obamas statements are Christian in any sense of the word. They are not biblical concepts of the historic Christian faith at all. Yet, Osteen, who doesnt promote biblical concepts of the historical Christian faith either supports Obama as a Christian. As for his job, well weve documented how poorly he is doing it, yet, he is doing exactly what he aims to do and that is to destroy America. However, recall this comes years after Osteen and his wife were interviewed by Larry King and they regurgitated the same nonsense that Osteen said in his interview with Blitzer. I think hes doing a great job, Osteen said. Im impressed of his skill, calmness, his just strength under pressure. I mean these are tough times for him, he got a lot put on his plate. But Ive been impressed. Wow! It doesnt take a lot to impress Joel Osteen, does it? It takes even less to impress his wife who was asked about Michelle Obama. Ive been real impressed, she said. Ive been impressed about the First Lady, she stepped up and shes done a remarkable job, and under the situation, they have done great. King then went on to point out that 12 percent of Americans (I find that utterly ridiculous) believe that Obama is a Muslim and that 35 percent say they dont know what religion he is (which I think might be factual). He then asked Osteen if he thought that mattered. Well, it matters to me, Mr. Osteen said. It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think its important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when Im making my personal decisions. His wife agreed. However, Osteen went on to promote his new Hope for Today Bible, saying, Its a living translation of the Bible, which is an easy version to read. And then its got our notes besides certain passages. And its just to help people maybe to understand the Bible a little bit easier. And just what will it help people understand easier? Apparently it wont help in the area of marriage. When asked if he thought more states would allow the redefinition of marriage to include sodomites, Osteen said, You know, I dont know where its all going ... Id love to see it stay between a male and a female, not knocking anybody else. Knocking anybody else? Why not? Jesus was clear about what marriage is and what it is not in Matthew 5 and Matthew 19. God was clear about it in Genesis 3. Why cant Joel Osteen be clear? Its because hes a false teacher. To be fair, at least his wife said, I just think marriage should be sanctified by the church. It should be between a man and a woman. While Osteen said the Gods best is between a male and female, it seems that for both Osteens is all about what they think rather than what God says. That is the crux of the issue. My friends, Joel Osteen is in the position he is in because the professed Church has not called people like him out and dealt with him biblically. Its time the people of God start dealing with false teachers in a biblical manner. Read more at freedomoutpost/2014/10/joel-osteen-praises-obama-christian-good-job/#7HsDOxAU70UOhV9G.99 These Nightmare Playgrounds Will Haunt Your Dreams…Little Things Comments 15 comments Tagged with barack obama Joel Osteen victoria osteen ← PreviousNext → About Tim Brown Tim Brown is an author and Editor at FreedomOutpost, husband to his wife, father of 10, jack of all trades, Christian and lover of liberty. He resides in the U.S. occupied Great State of South Carolina. Tim is also an affiliate for the brand new Joshua Mark 5 AR/AK hybrid semi-automatic rifle. Follow Tim on Twitter. 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