The Blog of Daniel Horowitz BLOG THEMES antisemitisme . antisémistisme . islamisme . israël . judaîsme . palestine . politique . religion . sionisme . terrorisme 72 Reactions alert Share Envoyer Print Out Increase Cut Back Jewish secularism JUNE 15, 2012 | BY DANIEL HOROWITZ During the emancipation of the Jews in the 18th and 19th century occurred in Judaism a kind of schism not reported to a theological dispute but the relegation of religion to the private sphere by Jews wanted to become citizens like the others. If human life is placed as the supreme value, it means that it is not God that is central, but man, that one is a believer or not. This is where the logic is fundamentally secular humanist. Being Jewish is to be part of the Jewish people without religion is a factor. The majority of Jews are also non-practitioners. In Israel they are defined as hilonims rough translation of secular. It is a posture that draws from both historical Judaism and modernity. The hilonims consider the state of Israel as the national home of the Jewish people. They are Jews by their traditions, their language, their festivals and attachment to the literary corpus of the Torah and the countless comments derived from this founding text. The report to the world of hilonims is to put people at the center of the ontological experience. This means that no one can escape responsibility for his own existence. They believe that ethical values, whether faith-based or not, have been designed by humans and must be approached from this angle. The hilonims desire to perpetuate the history of the Jewish people independently of any reference to the supernatural, but by focusing on the Jewish cultural heritage. They believe in the sanctity of the individual and his right to dignity, and aspire to be part of the family of nations. To do this they draw critically from Jewish sources and select which is consistent with the time. The hilonims Jew believe what anyone who sincerely aspire to be part of the Jewish people. The ancient definition stating that Jewishness is transmitted by the mother reports a tradition that states that only the mother is able to identify the child with certainty. This definition is also not religious but secular, as rightly emphasizes the philosopher Alain Finkielkraut. It was a measure to protect the child, even from a rape, even unknown father, was to be integrated into the community. Nowadays these considerations have lapsed. The Jewish people have a long and tragic history, and is still to face existential threats. That is why it is necessary to receive with open arms those who wish to contribute to this civilization and share this fate. Take his Jewishness was and is uncomfortable for many Jews across the world, who have at their disposal other framework than religious communities, there often adhere with mixed feelings. This is where Israel is not a secular state in the French sense of the word, but recognizes the Jewish identity in a formal way, irrespective of religious or philosophical beliefs of citizens. This had not happened since biblical times. Israel Judaism secularism ALL MOST DISCUSSED MOST RECOMMENDED CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER ALL COMMENTS 17/06/2012, 1:58 P.M. | BY AGNES GOUINGUENET @DANIEL HOROWITZ. - Shalom young man. - What I like best about you is your very sharp human intelligence. - In my view, it is neither Jewish nor Swiss nor European nor related to your skin color, or I do not know what else ... - So entirely secondary in my opinion, you were born Jewish. So what? I am born Breton, so what? You are a man and Im a woman, so what? - ShalKenav - Smile NB Beloved your ticket, which is doing everything possible with courage; but the road is long before reaching a healthy secularism and so serene, especially when the tradition was based on a book called sacred. Kif Kif-for other Abrahamic, Buddhists etc ... ALERT 18/06/2012, 15:43 | BY DANIEL HOROWITZ IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT AGNÈS GOUINGUENET ON 17/06/2012 AT 13:58 > From quite high in my opinion, you were born Jewish. So what? I am born Breton, so what? You are a man and Im a woman, so what? We are okay, but you and I know that we are not the product of our genes, but also the context in which come into the world. This is done with the same human material women and men develop different cultures. Your quality of Breton gives you access to a common history, language and references elusive for me, and vice versa. All men are created equal, but when I am dealing with a Chinese we all sentences to communicate, except perhaps by the smile, and again. I am always amazed that it normal that a painter or a composer could say so soothed derives its creation of its inspiration (which means absolutely nothing), but that demands accountability a believer to believe what he believes. The bottom line is that everyone has the duty to learn from what goes through his mind, but also needs to understand that he has no right to impose it on others. It is this last aspect that we must insist, not freedom of thought, including thinking in religious terms. ALERT 18/06/2012, 4:46 P.M. | BY AGNES GOUINGUENET IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS OF DANIEL HOROWITZ ON 18/06/2012 AT 15:43 DANIEL Horowitz (6:06 p.m. to 3:43 p.m.). - Your anti-clerical and anti-religious provision should not take you to throw the baby out with the bathwater - Well, you have only half right; Indeed, I became a Catholic anti-clerical because being a woman, I have difficulty accepting that men reject me (the woman) to be better servant of God (Benedict XVI, the current pope, said that Women theo-excentrent Catholic priests ; you still have to release it in the twenty-first century!). - For cons, I am not anti-religious. Besides, I am not an atheist but an agnostic; shade ... For a believer and an atheist answered the question that keeps tapping the agnostic, the latter always looking for no Manichean answer becomes her. - And I feel a tad laïcarde, indeed; because the French secularism, we must keep ... religiously ... And of course improve constantly. This is such a precious commodity; we see so much human damage in theocracies. - It is in the New Testament it is said to render unto Caesar what is Caesars and to God what is Gods. So I have no rejects by Old New Testament Bible nor the noble Quran elsewhere, or other boudhisto-Hindu texts as a World Heritage Site. These are the dogmatimorphes interpretations of these texts are dangers to peace. - About nature and nurture, we are on the same sense. A little black girl born Tutsi in Rwanda in 1987, will not be the same human journey as me ... - The artistic inspiration remains mysterious, do not you think? The realm of Ruach? - ShalKenav - Smile ALERT 02/07/2012, 6:52 P.M. | BY STEPHANE M. IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT AGNÈS GOUINGUENET ON 17/06/2012 AT 13:58 Report of the British Foreign Affairs on torture of Palestinian children in Israeli jails Friday, June 29, 2012 - 06h: 17 In what is a first survey of its kind, a team of nine legal personalities discussed how the Palestinians as young as the age of 12 are treated during their arrest. The report entitled Children in military custody, said with details how young people are taken from their beds in the middle of the night, wrists bound behind his back, eyes blindfolded and forced to kneel or lie face against the ground in military vehicles. The Foreign Office in Britain said last night that he would raise the issue with Israel. West Bank children are detained in conditions that may amount to torture, as the practice of isolation, and with little or no access to their parents. They may be forced to stay awake before being both verbally and physically abused and forced to sign confessions that they can not read. The team - led by Sir Stephen Sedley, a former judge of the appellate court - has heard that every Palestinian child is treated as a potential terrorist. In a damning conclusion, the report highlights the repeated violations of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which prohibits cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment. We were sitting in the courtyard [of Justice] and saw part of a preliminary hearing, when a young child was brought, a boy, wearing a brown uniform with shackles. We were shocked to see this. It was a situation where we had been invited to enter by senior judges was entering the military courts for briefings, said Greg Davies, one of the authors of the report, and lawyers specializing in the rights humans. Keeping children consistently and for long periods in solitary confinement should, if this occurred, amount to torture, the report said. Last night the Foreign Office, which supported the report, said it will forward the complaints to the Israeli authorities. The British government has long been concerned about the treatment of Palestinian children in Israeli prisons, and therefore decided to fund this independent report. While recognizing that some positive steps have recently been taken by the Israeli authorities [?], We share many of the reports concerns, and we will continue to press for further improvements. » Last night, Amir Ofek, the spokesman of the embassy [of the Zionist entity] stated that his country appreciated the efforts of the delegation, but he blamed the Palestinians who glorify terrorism. You can download the full report (PDF - 500 KB) info-palestine.net/article.php3?id_article=12358 ALERT 18/06/2012, 0:21 | FOR GIULLIETTALASUBVERSIVE This is where Israel is not a secular state in the French sense of the word, but recognizes the Jewish identity in a formal way, irrespective of religious or philosophical beliefs of citizens. This is where Israel a country that has existed on any map of the world before they were stolen by the Zionists, the people of ancient Palestine ... ALERT 19/06/2012, 7:54 | BY DANIEL HOROWITZ IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT GIULLIETTALASUBVERSIVE ON 18/06/2012 AT 00:21 What you call people of ancient Palestine is anything but the Arab people, who according to themselves conquered Palestine to the eighth century hunting or Islamized Jews who were there, who are probably the ancestors of the Arab Palestinian today. What is certain is that in any case there were Arabs in ancient Palestine, while the history of Jews in this land is corroborated by numerous writings, including the Gospels, which tell the story and death of the Jewish Jesus of Nazareth. As for the Palestinians in the modern era, they were almost 1.8 million in the west of the Jordan River in 1947, one million two hundred thousand Palestinian and Arab 6-100000 Palestinian Jews. This space was occupied by the British. When they have decided to evacuate the territory it was clear that Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs do not hear in a liberated Palestine. The UN then proposed to the two peoples to partition Palestine. Palestinian Jews accepted the Palestinian Arabs refused. We are still always there. What to remember this history, otherwise we can not understand is that the Jews in Israel are also Palestinian, Palestinian Arabs, with the difference that they declared independence in 1948 under the UN auspices and with the recognition of the majority of countries in the world, which makes Israel a state of both legal and legitimate. Hopefully the Palestinian Arabs finally conclude that there place to live in peace and security with their neighbors Palestinian Jews, park e it is their common interest ALERT 02/07/2012, 6:44 P.M. | BY GIULLIETTALASUBVERSIVE IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS OF DANIEL HOROWITZ ON 19/06/2012 AT 07:54 A Daniel I guess you are the author of this book? peuplepalestinien.png The world did not start the 8th century .. This land never belonged to Jews, and the story is not in the religious texts which are handled in nature, especially when one wants to believe that open water to save the elect people, and women aged 99 years who manage to have children .. The reign of the Jews did not appear in the story, or very little, and what little remains found show that the kingdom of Solomon is totally pathological liar .. Palestine fire and blood - as now This is a documentary made very original, from its objectivity by presenting non-Arabs but Israeli historians testifying war crimes that Israel has long hidden surout the veil was lifted after arms Prohibited use in Gaza recently. Here is the truth to light! Historical documentary dealing with the origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since 1799, subtitled, for the first time, French subtitles and 6 parts. dailymotion/video/x8fxpf_la-palestine-au-feu-et-au-sang-aujo_news dailymotion/video/x8fxr4_la-palestine-au-feu-et-au-sang-aujo_news dailymotion/video/x8fxpf_la-palestine-au-feu-et-au-sang-aujo_news dailymotion/video/x8fxsb_la-palestine-au-feu-et-au-sang-aujo_news http: http: //dailymotion/video/xdwsol_la-palestine-au-feu-et-au-sang-aujo_ dailymotion/video/xdwsol_la-palestine-au-feu-et-au-sang-aujo_news ISRAEL: A NATION UNITED IN RACISM - Gideon Levy ALERT 25/06/2012, 3:08 P.M. | BY RECIPROGENIE I thank you for your interventions. then is what it means that a person can be uive and another confession? thank you for your response as it would help the debate ... ALERT 30/06/2012, 8:52 P.M. | BY DANIEL HOROWITZ IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT RECIPROGENIE ON 25/06/2012 AT 15:08 Being Jewish notes of ancestry. The Jewish religion is a feature of the history of the Jewish people, but does not define anything or Jewish rabbinical views or atheistic Jewish perspective. The most Orthodox Jews consider the most atheistic Jews are nevertheless Jews throughout their lives. ALERT 01/07/2012 12:05 | BY GIULLIETTALASUBVERSIVE IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT DANIEL HOROWITZ ON 30/06/2012 AT 20:52 Being Jewish notes of ancestry. There are no Jewish ancestry, since being Jewish is not an ethnic but a religious identity .. ALERT 01/07/2012, 24:56 | BY DANIEL HOROWITZ IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT GIULLIETTALASUBVERSIVE 01/07/2012 AT 12:05 Yet the Act (Civil) Return of Israel defines as anyone who has at least one Jewish grandparent gets Israeli citizenship almost automatically. The law as to rabinnique defines that anyone with a Jewish mother is Jewish, whether practicing or not and if it is a man, whether circumcised or not, whether in Israel or elsewhere. ALERT 01/07/2012, 1:45 P.M. | BY OLALA IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS OF DANIEL HOROWITZ ON 01/07/2012 AT 12:56 Yet the Act (Civil) Return of Israel defines as anyone who has at least one Jewish grandparent gets Israeli citizenship almost automatically. Question, the Israeli state then defines which must be Israeli (in the same way as the French government said that must be French), but to be a Jew and Israeli are two different things right? The law as to rabinnique defines that anyone with a Jewish mother is Jewish, whether practicing or not and if it is a man, whether circumcised or not, whether in Israel or elsewhere. Question: even the Catholic Church says that every baptized person is considered Christian, we do not preocupe of human opinion is not a little curious? There is no questioning of this accounting -There you? ALERT 01/07/2012, 3:40 P.M. | BY DANIEL HOROWITZ IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT OLALA 01/07/2012 AT 13:45 Your questions are legitimate. > Question, the Israeli state then defines which must be Israeli (in the same way as the French government said that must be French), but to be a Jew and Israeli are two different things right? There are several communities in Israel. The greater Jewish community (+/- 80%), then there are Arab community, Bedouin, Druze, Circassians and others smaller. But all members of these communities have in common that Israeli and have an ID card and an identical passport. This sounds complicated, but it is the differences found in some federal states such as Switzerland, Belgium or Canada. The Arabs are not subject to compulsory military service, Bedouin and Druze are integrated into the army, and the ultra-Orthodox Jews are exempt. > Question: even the Catholic Church says that every baptized person is considered Christian, we do not preocupe of human opinion is not a little curious? There is no questioning of this accounting -There you? Everyone has the right in any democratic society to distance itself from its original religion. This is obviously the case in Israel, where no one is forcing anyone to be Jewish or whatever. Someone who emigrated to Israel under the Law of Return (with at least one Jewish grandparent) is bound to anything from a religious point of view, and is accountable to no religious or philosophical beliefs . This is not the case in many Muslim countries, where nobody has the right to leave Islam, whether to go to atheism or convert to another religion. This approach is prohibited by law and is sometimes punishable by death. ALERT 02/07/2012, 6:23 P.M. | BY STEPHANE M. IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS OF DANIEL HOROWITZ ON 01/07/2012 AT 15:40 The Identity Card in Israel to distinguish a Jew from a non-Jew. And institutions such as the police or justice strictly not treat in the same way an Israeli Jew and a non-Jewish Israeli. There are no Israeli citizenship because the state of Israel is based on a favored status given to the Jews. ALERT 04/07/2012, 9:02 P.M. | BY DANIEL HOROWITZ IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS OF MR. STEPHANE 02/07/2012 AT 6:23 P.M. The ID card does not allow Israel to distinguish a Jew, non-Jew because it is the same for all citizens. As for the treatment of the authorities of the various communities, I do not think the situation is different from most Western countries. France and the United States there are racist nature of burrs, but when they are found they are punishable by law. As in Israel. ALERT 04/07/2012, 9:29 P.M. | BY STEPHANE M. IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS OF DANIEL HOROWITZ ON 04/07/2012 AT 21:02 Horowitz, This is false, Identity Card allows both to distinguish a Jew, non-Jew in Israel. Even the registration plates can differentiate! Well, if, of course, an Israeli Arab does not have the same rights as an Israeli Jew and neither the police nor the courts will treat in the same way. France is not the state of ethnic whites. An Arab, a buddhist or French may be the fate and their status will be the same as that of other French. Anyone of French ancestry has no right to settle in France at the location of indigenous homes demolished (except a Jew, as Gilad Shalit, who, having only one grandmother who one day lived in France, and not speaking a word of French could claim to have French nationality, but he had all the press Zionist journalists behind him ...)
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