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To all the websites and so-called teachers who speak against Yeshuas deity, The Refiners Fire presents the following warning: 1 Timothy 4: 1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.... Lets attempt to discern YHWHs Word from a completely different angle, rather than the same old, worn-out Scriptures so many people use to try to dispute Yeshuas Godhood and the fact that YHWH (Yahweh) has so far revealed Himself to us as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit: In Genesis YHWH often refers to Himself in the plural form, which proves He is more than a singular. Example: Genesis 1:26 - Then God said, Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground. Genesis 3:22 - And the Lord God said, The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever. Some traditional Jews like to explain this away by saying, Well, He said we because He was talking to the angels he had recently created, supposedly on the 2nd Day (sorry, but we dont see any angels mentioned there!). Where exactly does it say that in the Bible? How do we even know that angels existed at that particular time, because the Bible never says WHEN they were created. (Perhaps something is mentioned in the Talmud, but that was spoken passed down through the generations, which makes the whole idea a moot point.) The first time we hear anything about angels is in Genesis 16:7. If YHWH was talking to the angels in Genesis 1, the Bible would surely have signified it in some way. Next, in Hebrew, the Shema, the Jewish confession of faith made up of Deut 6:4-9, 11:13-21, and Numbers 15:37-41 is very clear about God being One - however, its a plurality of one as evidenced in the word Echad: Shema Yisrael, Adonai Elohainu, Adonai Echad. (In English: Hear O Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is One.) The Godhead is Echad, or One - However, this Hebrew word Echad allows for plurality, and thats the word God used in the Bible. Had YHWH meant it to be strictly singular, He would have used YACHID, because it can only be used in the singular (something which is undivided = Yachid, or unit). For instance: one stone, one desk, one chair, etc. When you use the word YACHID, then plurality is totally out of the question. But ECHAD is anything that can be grouped, such as grapes or people, etc. For instance: Ezekiel 37: 18 When your countrymen ask you, Wont you tell us what you mean by this? 19 say to them, This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph--which is in Ephraims hand--and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judahs stick, making them a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand. The word used in the original Hebrew to describe the coming together of these sticks is ECHAD, not YACHID. In other words, two sticks come to together to make one stick. The word YACHID would have been totally inappropriate here. Genesis 1:5 says He made evening and morning which, together (ECHAD) , were the first day. Genesis 2:24 says Man should leave his father and mother to live with his wife. And the two shall become one (ECHAD) flesh. If God had wanted to use a word for Himself which would NOT allow plurality in Scripture, He would have used YACHID. He didnt. Furthermore, one Hebrew word for God is ELOHIM. In Hebrew, everything that ends in im is plural. If God were one single unit, He would have referred to Himself as Eloah. Why did He refer to Himself in the plural? Because YHWH is majesty and He is complicated, able to reveal Himself in whatever form He wants: Lets dig deeper, beginning with Genesis 18: Genesis 18:1 Now the LORD appeared to him (Abraham) by the oaks of Mamre, while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 When he lifted up his eyes and looked, behold, three men were standing opposite him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the earth, 3 and said, My Lord, (notice he didnt say, Gentlemen; He said Lord) if now I have found favor in Your sight, please do not pass Your servant by. (Did Abraham speak to one of them, or all three? Just ONE, because the original Hebrew says he ran to ONE of them and called Him Lord! He knew God from a previous meeting in Gen 17: 1 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, I am God Almighty; walk before me and be blameless. 2 I will confirm my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers. 3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.) In Exodus 6:2 God also said to Moses, I am the Lord . 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the Lord I did not make myself known to them. Exodus 33: 20 But, he said, you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live. The Jewish Apostle John referred to Yeshua as The Word. What hes saying is, human beings in their present form, cannot see God. Yeshua was the outward visible expression of the invisible God to human beings. John 1: 1. In the beginning was the Miltha. And that Miltha was with Elohim. And Elohim was that Miltha. 2. This was with Elohim in the beginning. 3. Everything existed through His hands, and without Him, not even one thing existed of the things which have existed. 4. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5. And that light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overtake it. (AENT) John 1: 14. And the Miltha became flesh and dwelt among us and we saw His glory, the glory as the Only-Begotten who is from the Father who is full of grace and truth. (AENT) Miltha, by the way, refers to the Manifestation of the Ruach haKodesh within Mashiyach. The physical body of Mashiyach is not the Word of YHWH, but his words and actions demonstrate the Will and Word of YHWH, which upholds observance of Torah. However, Christo-Pagans like Marcion and Constantine taught that Yshuas body and spirit manifest a different word that did away with Torah. The Word of YHWH was substituted with dispensational and replacement theologies, which are very popular among Christians. The Bible teaches us about two comings of the Messiah who comes from the Tribe of David, a human family, and who is absolutely YHWH. Lets go to the text that speaks about the future coming: Jeremiah 23: 5 The days are coming, declares the Lord , when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. 6 In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The Lord Our Righteousness. This name has no equivalent in the kind of names a Jewish mother or father would dare give their child. They have named their children with the attributes of God, but never Lord or God. Isaiah 9: 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Deity is never born; only humanity is. The above Names for Him show that Messiah WOULD be born as a man but, having a Divine Qnoma (Nature) He would also be considered YHWH-in-the-Flesh. How - as is alleged - does Matthew 16 prove that Yeshua is NOT YHWH in the Flesh? Yeshua is trying to teach His disciples is that people in general must learn who Messiah is through a supernatural revelation of God, not simply because somebody told them. In other words, it must be spiritually discerned for each person. Thats why He told them not to tell people who He was. If you will look at vs. 21-25, you will see that Peter was sharply rebuked when he tried to speak against Yeshua prophesied death; he was, at that moment in time, interfering with Gods plan. Yeshua told them that in order to have eternal life, one must die to himself in order to be able to see the things of God through spiritual eyes. Matthew 16: 13. And when Yshua came to the region of Caesarea of Philippi, he was asking his disciples and said, Concerning me, who do men say that I am, merely a son of a man? 14. And they said, Some say Yochanan the Immerser, but others Eliyahu. And others Yirmeyahu, or one of the prophets. 15. He said to them, But who do you say that I am? 16. Shimon Keefa said, You are the Mashiyach, the Son of the Living Elohim. 17. Yshua answered him and said, Blessed are you Shimon, the son of Yona, because flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18. I say also to you that you are Keefa, and on this Keefa I will build my assembly, and the gates of Sheol will not subdue it. 19. To you I will give the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and any thing you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and all things that you loose on earth, will be loosed in heaven. 20. Then he commanded his disciples that they should not say to men that he was the Mashiyach. 21. And from that time onwards, Yshua began to make known to his disciples that he must go to Urislim and suffer much from the elders and from the chief priests, and scribes. And he would be killed, and on the third day would rise up. 22. But Keefa took him and began to rebuke him and said, Far be it from you, my Master that this should happen to you. 23. But he turned and said to Keefa, Get behind me Satan! You are a stumbling block to me because you do not think of Elohim, rather of the sons of men. 24. Then Yshua said to his disciples, He who wishes to follow after me, let him deny himself and take up his staff and follow after me. 25. He who desires to save his life, will lose it. And he who loses his life for my sake, will find it. (AENT) Now check out Romans 8: 1. There is therefore no condemnation to them who in Yshua the Mashiyach walk not after the flesh. 2. For the Torah of the Spirit of Life, which is in Yshua the Mashiyach, has emancipated you from the instruction of sin and death. 3. Therefore, as Torah was impotent through the weakness of the flesh, Elohim sent his Son in the likeness of sinful flesh on account of sin; that He might, in his flesh, condemn sin; 4. So that the righteousness of Torah might be fulfilled in us, since it is not in the flesh that we walk, but in the Spirit. 5. For they who are in the flesh recall to mind the things of the flesh: and they who are of the Spirit do recall to the mind the things of the Spirit. 6. For minding the things of the flesh is death; but minding the things of the Spirit is life and peace. 7. Because minding the things of the flesh is enmity towards Elohim: for it does not subject itself to the Torah of Elohim, because it is not possible. 8. And they who are in the flesh cannot please Elohim. 9. You, however, are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit; if the Spirit of Elohim truly dwells in you. And if in anyone there is not the Spirit of Mashiyach, he is none of his. 10. But if Mashiyach is in you, the body is dead in regard to sin; and the Spirit is alive in regard to righteousness. 11. And if the Spirit of Him who raised our Master Yshua the Mashiyach from the dead dwells in you, he who raised our Master Yshua the Mashiyach from the dead will also revive your dead bodies because of his Spirit that dwells in you. 12. Now we are debtors, my Brothers, not to the flesh, that we should walk according to the flesh: 13. For if you live according to the flesh, you are going to die. But if, by the Spirit, you subdue the inclinations of your body, you will live. 14. For they who are led by the Spirit of Elohim, they are the sons of Elohim. 15. For you have not received the spirit of bondage, again to fear; but you have received the Spirit of adoption, by which we cry, Abba, our Father. 16. And this Spirit testifies to our spirit that we are the sons of Elohim. 17. And if sons, then heirs; heirs of Elohim, and joint heirs of the inheritance of Yshua the Mashiyach: so that, if we suffer with him, we will also be glorified with him. 18. For I consider well that the sufferings of the present are not comparable with the glory which is to be perfected in us. 19. For the whole creation is hoping and waiting for the development of the sons of Elohim. 20. For the creation was subjected to vanity, not by its own choice, but because of him who subjected it 21. In the hope that also the creation itself would be emancipated from the bondage of corruption into the liberty of the glory of the sons of Elohim. 22. For we know, that all the creatures are groaning and labors in pain to this day. 23. And not only they, but we also in whom are the first fruits of the Spirit, we groan within ourselves and look anxiously for the adoption of sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24. Therefore we live in hope. Although hope that is seen is not hope; for if we saw it, how should we hope for it? 25. But if we hope for that which is not seen, we are in patient waiting. 26. So also the Spirit aids our weakness. For we are not cognizant of what to pray for in a proper manner; but the Spirit prays for us with groans beyond description. 27. And the searcher of hearts, he knows what is the mind of the Spirit; because he prays for the Set Apart believers, agreeably to the will of Elohim. 28. And we know that he aids him in all things, for good, who love Elohim; them whom he called from before our beginnings according to his purpose. 29. And he knew them previously; and he sealed them with the likeness of the image of his Son; that He might be the first-born of many brothers. 30. And those whom he previously sealed, them he called: and those whom he called, them he made righteous: and those whom he made righteous, them he glorified. 31. What then will we say of these things? If Elohim (is) for us; who (is) against us? 32. And, if he spared not his Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not give us all things, with him? 33. Who will set himself against the chosen of Elohim? It is Elohim who justifies. 34. Who is it that condemns? Mashiyach died and arose and is on the right hand of Elohim, and makes intercession for us. 35. What will sever me from the love of Mashiyach? Will affliction or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or peril or the sword? 36. As it is written: For your sake, we die daily: and we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37. But in all these things we are victorious by means of him who loved us. 38. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor Messengers nor principalities, nor powers nor things present nor things to come, 39. Nor height nor depth, nor any other creature will be able to sever me from the love of Elohim which is in our Master Yshua the Mashiyach. (AENT)
Posted on: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:07:36 +0000

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