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Who is Doer or enjoyer of joy & pain? Is it soul or mind & body? Question: I heard from so many people that we are not doer but we are watching the doer, we are just witnessing the Doer or enjoyer. But even if I am consciously witness my mind & body still I feel that soul is enjoyer of pain & joy. Please explain to clarify my doubts? Answer: It’s a beautiful question .infect this question couldn’t clarify by lot of teachers in the past & I am very happy ,you did asked this question .I also never realized the importance of this question in the past. Some thoughts have risen in my mind after you asked this question lets evaluate this question…. Let’s say Sun is a soul or self and Sun light is a consciousness. Let’s say mirror is the ego or I. Now when sunlight reflects through mirror, mirror can create different kinds of reflections by moving itself in different directions. So who is moving? Mirror is moving, not sun. Similarly our reflected world is manifested by reflection of Mind & body (mirrors). Without Mind & body this world cannot be created so by this example we can say that Mind & body is Doer & enjoyer. But please tell me, Can Mirror create reflection without Sun? It’s not possible for mind to do anything in this world without self (SUN). Without sunlight or without consciousness how somebody can be doer & enjoyer. So please tell me who is going to decide that! Who is doer & enjoyer .if Sun & mind both goes into a Judgment court & ask Judge that ‘’who is doer or enjoyer ‘’? Anything we do or enjoy, both parties are equally responsible. If sun says in the court that Honorable Judge, I never wanted to do this painful doings but Mind took advantage of my sunlight. Judge will only give answer that ‘why u r not aware of your sunlight (consciousness) so that nobody can exploit you. If you would be aware before, Mind would never took your advantage, so why you r crying for pain, you never did any complaint about mind when you were enjoying its mind deeds so why complain for suffering. So be aware …. You both are responsible for your doings & enjoying’. Have u read in Trains that beware of your luggage, you will be responsible for your luggage. Same way awareness is the key which can help you take away from any joy & pain because u knows that I am equally responsible for Mind`s doing so why Crying for pain. Or if we are so aware that we don’t take any inner participation in Joy, happiness, or any doings of mind (I am great Scholar, scientist, happiness, pain extra). Then even if everything is going on ( joy & pain) periphery of our inner core on mind level, but inner core will be peaceful…….. Our soul will never be upset with happiness & joy, but it has always compliant about pains created by our mind. So that means soul has only non-dual aspect. Soul has original nature of peace and happiness. But mind has dual aspects, it has pain & joy. When we search for joy, we need to pass through pain. I saw many rich families in my life, I belong to middle class family, but with god`s grace I got chance to see rich life style. Over there Rich people has everything available on plate, so there should be no complains for life, but when there is no complains, mind will lose it all excitement and enjoyment. So I saw their attitude is most filled with complaints even for small things about food, clothings, cars, servents or many things. Complaints are essence in their life; otherwise their life will be fully dead without enjoyment. That’s why all these luxury industries like Bentley, Rolls Royce, designer clothing’s extra are result of complain attitude. Many people I saw in India , Mostly poor, or looser in life ,they like to give pain to themselves, they will put their body to test by giving pain, by beating themselves, standing on one feet for years, by piercing themselves with sharpen things. In other words they are willingly want pain only for one reason that mind has no choice left for giving extra pain but Mind has only left with joy & peace. So this is another way of getting happiness. Pain & joy on mind level are two sides of same coin. You get one; the other will automatically follow it. Many women in our families have one kind of attitude of `Creating trouble or any issues without any logic` in house just for getting attention in their life. This attitude is very important for their long living, because they are not being properly attendant by family members. Attention is their food for happiness. Many elder mothers, mother in laws need attention form their children, so they only left with one option by creating illogical issues. Almost everybody possesses some suicidal tendency inside. When something goes bad in life, or not going according to their ambitions (which leads to happiness), always they will think to suicide. Many people who suicide in life, only for one reason that either they want this kind of life style or they will not accept any pain so better to die. These suicidal thoughts are most dangerous thoughts, WHY? Because it shows lack of awareness on 1-10 scale is minimum. They love life very much, but could not accept the pain side of life. Many people suicide for their honor protection or respect, because they cannot accept life with humility. Whatever the case may be, everybody has to face both sides of Joy & pain, as we live in duality. We will always searching for happiness as we are reflection of soul, and in that process we will encounter pains. But our awareness is the one who make our soul realize that ‘ok now suffering time starts, let’s wait for good time to come…………… Regards Atulanand
Posted on: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 01:27:37 +0000

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