• Ramiz Habib dinesh ji kuch bolne ki tameez sikho .insan k lafaz us k kirdar ki nomaindgi karte hai agar jis k bad apne lafz thik nai kiya ya topic pe bat nai ki to ap k comments sab delet kar do ga 53 minutes ago • Like • Ramiz Habib shiva ji vedon ka bhed khola howa hai vedon ko bacho ye kis ka kalam hai phir quran par bhi aa jae ge ji 51 minutes ago • Like • Iam Asif Khan @DINESH: kyu baar baar apne vedic tahzeeb dikhate ho..!! 50 minutes ago via mobile • Like • 1 • Vaibhav Kaushik @Ramiz: Aapne jo Ved mantro ka reference diya hai along with translation woh kahan se liya hai aapne? 47 minutes ago via mobile • Unlike • 1 • Biplab Mandal a log kya ved parta hai hame malum hai.inlogo se sirf itna he pucho Sawr kise kaheta hai,Sawr ka nam Sawr kiu huya?.o dr zakir naik apne ko islam or ved ka fate-kha manta hai jab ki 2004 se samne aneka himat nahe jhuta paya.a log janta he nahe Ved hota kya.ahe karan hai ki Qurani pasand karne wala allha ko a log dayalu kaheta hai,kafer ko munim bannese kud rokkar jahannum k bate karta hai(quran,02 : 06 & 07),sakar allha jo mariyam k guptang me fuk marne wale ko nirakar kaheta hai.valo o kya janta hai dharm kya hai.kud Kalma me allha se muhammed ko jorkar Sirk karta hai o kya jane Ved kya hota hai. 40 minutes ago via mobile • Unlike • 1 • Dinesh Sharma ramiz main ne apka jawab dehai deha hai dekh le jo ap jhoot page numbar aur wrong tranlation kya hai dekha kaha likha hai wo aur pahela sawal ka jawab biplab mandal ne deha hai wo bhai upar dekh lo aplog jhoot bolene mai maher ho na sanskrit ka gyan hai ,aur ab to mujhe mera jawab do 14 minutes ago • Edited • Like • Dinesh Sharma jawab do ab tere bare hai dekha jo tune jhoot likha tha habib yea ved hai apka ka quoran nahi jo mulla corrupt kar deunge main sabhi mullu ko dekha hai ulta padh ye padhte hai aur wrong translation har jagaha tum karte ho aur bolte ho ved mein yea hai main ne prove upar de hai dekha kya to jhoot bolta hai mulla satya ka sat do muhammad ke tara tum bhi ho kya 30 minutes ago • Edited • Like • 1 • Dinesh Sharma Why Islam manufacture terrorists! Did Jihad mean spiritual struggle? A comparative study of the Quran that inspire terrorism in the name of faith towards almighty Allah. . Quran (2:191-193) - And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Quran (2:244) - Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things. Quran (2:216) - Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot. Quran (3:56) - As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help. Quran (3:151) - Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority. Quran (4:74) - Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for todays suicide bombers. Quran (4:89) - They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Quran (4:95) - Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,- This passage criticizes peaceful Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allahs eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that Jihad doesnt mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind mans protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse). Quran (4:104) - And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain... Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense? Quran (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement Quran (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8:15) - O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journeys end. Quran (8:39) - And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah Some translations interpret fitna as persecution, but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context. The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammads intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until religion is only for Allah, meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that Allah must have no rivals. Quran (8:57) - If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember. Quran (8:59-60) - And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allahs Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy. Quran (8:65) - O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight... Quran (9:5) - So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them. 5 minutes ago • Like • Dinesh Sharma Why Islam manufacture terrorists! Did Jihad mean spiritual struggle? A comparative study of the Quran that inspire terrorism in the name of faith towards almighty Allah. . Quran (2:191-193) - And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Quran (2:244) - Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things. Quran (2:216) - Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot. Quran (3:56) - As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help. Quran (3:151) - Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority. Quran (4:74) - Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for todays suicide bombers. Quran (4:89) - They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Quran (4:95) - Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,- This passage criticizes peaceful Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allahs eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that Jihad doesnt mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind mans protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse). Quran (4:104) - And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain... Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense? Quran (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement Quran (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8:15) - O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journeys end. Quran (8:39) - And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah Some translations interpret fitna as persecution, but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context. The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammads intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until religion is only for Allah, meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that Allah must have no rivals. Quran (8:57) - If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember. Quran (8:59-60) - And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allahs Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy. Quran (8:65) - O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight... Quran (9:5) - So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them. 4 minutes ago • Like • Dinesh Sharma kya quoran atankwad nahi sikhata ya failata hai 3 minutes ago • Like
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