Who is the real Gita sermonizer? –Incorporeal Shiv* or the soul of corporeal Sri Krishna?:::::::::::: There is no doubt that Gita, which has been guiding the Indians since the last two and a half thousand years is a gem among all the scriptures. But there would not be as many commentaries by scholars and learned persons on any other scripture as on Gita, which proves that this scripture is so unique that the different kinds of clarifications on Gita given by human beings have never satisfied all the human beings. Someone has rightly said, Kai jaaney kavi, ya kai jaaney ravi. The poet only or the sun of knowledge can give the correct clarification of a poem. Rest of the clarifications given by the human beings will be incomplete from one point of view or the other. It has been fed in the minds of the general public that the Sermoniser of Gita was Shri Krishna, who gave the discourse of Gita to Arjuna sitting on a chariot in the war field of Kurukshetra. But if we look from a spiritual and historical angle then all the questions such as who, when, whom and where was Gita narrated are disputable. The story of Gita and Satyanarayana prove that God reveals himself in the form of an ordinary, old and experienced human being. It has been written in Gita: Avjaanaanti maam muha manurshee tanumashritam I Param bhaavamjaananto mam bhutmaheshwaram II [Gita 9/11] Further it has been written in Gita that God is ajanma [eternal], abhokta [one who does not enjyoy any pleasures] and avyakta [imperceptible]. Ajo S pi sannvyayatma bhutanamishraro S pi san I Prakriti swamdhishthaay sambhavamyatmamaayayaa II [Gita 4/6] Yo maamjamanaadim cha veti lokmaheshwaram I Asam-mudhah sa martyeshu sarvapapaih pramuchyatey II In the Shrimad Bhagwatgita that aadi-anadi purush [eternal being] has been praised – [tamev chadhyam purusham prapdhye yatah pravrittih prasuta puraani I Gita 15/4], i.e., I bow to that aadi-anaadi purush, who has first of all created this world-like tree. That eternal being [aadi purush] is telling himself: [Ahamadirhi devanam maharshinaam cha sarvashah-Gita 10/2], i.e., I am only the beginning of all the deities and sages. He only had propagated that famous principle of karma yoga [remembering God while performing actions] in the ancient times, due to which India got the name of karma bhumi [land of the actions of God] as per the Jaina tradition also [nishtha pura prokta mayanagh… karmayogen yoginaam-Gita 3/3] Here it may be recalled that the knowledge of Gita was not given by Shri Krishna, but by that aadi-anaadi purush [eternal being] to the householder Arjuna in order to teach the religion of household [grihastha-dharma] and to teach him easy Raja Yoga. In this connection, some of the quotes of famous historians are given below, without going into the details: The idea of Hopkins [on Gita] is that “The present Krishna-dominated form was earlier a Vishnu-dominated poem and prior to that it was a non-communal creation. Religions of India [1608] Page 386 [Radhakrishnan Gita, Page 17]. Farkuhar has written in Religious literature of India [1620] page 12-14, “This [Gita] is an ancient prose Upanishad, which was probably written after shwetashwataropanishad and which has been moulded into the present form after the death of Christ to support the Krishnaism by some poet. As per Garvey, “Bhagwatgita was earlier a scripture related to Sankhya-yoga, in which the methods of worship of Krishna Vasudev got included and it was adjusted as per the Vedic traditions by considering Krishna to be a form of Vishnu in the 3rd Century B.C. The main creation was written prior to 200 B.C and it has been given the present form by a disciple of Vedaant during 2 A.D. Holtzman believes Gita to be a later Vishnu-dominated form of a sarveshwarwadi poem. Keith also believes that originally Gita was a Shwetashwatar form of Upanishad, but later it was moulded in the form of Krishna worship. [An extract from the introduction to Radhakrishnan ‘Gita’, page 17] Shri Krishna was born from the womb of a mother. He enjoyed all the pleasures of life and had obtained knowledge from Guru Sandipani. He has mostly been depicted in childhood form. That is why the entire world cannot accept him as a Father. Secondly, it is famous in mythological stories that Shri Krishna narrated Gita only to one Arjuna while sitting on a chariot in the Copper Age [Dwapar Yug], but it is also famous that Sage Vyaas had written the scripture Mahabharata, which reached the general public in Sanskrit. From the historical point of view these points are disputable. Actually, Gita is the highest among all the scriptures [sarva shastra shiromani], but it was narrated in the confluence age of the 5000 years old world drama wheel consisting of four ages, i.e. at the confluence of the Iron Age and the Golden Age, which is being repeated now. Had Gita been narrated only in the Copper Age then how did the sinful Iron Age arrive? After the incarnation of God*, it should have resulted in the commencement of Golden Age and not the most sinful Iron Age. And Gita is narrated in the Confluence Age, when all the religions, the religious followers and the religious fathers of those religions are present in their last birth. It is because of this only it has been said in Gita, “Renounce all the religions and come into my asylum, the asylum of one Supreme Soul. Sarvadharmanparityajya Mamekam Sharanam Vraj. Aham twa sarvapapebhyo mokshayami maa shuchah. [Gita 18/66] From the point of view of Hindus, when Gita was narrated in the Copper Age, then the religions like Islam, Sikhism etc. were not present. Then how did the above hymn [shloka] come in Gita? And the Gita was not narrated in a complex language like Sanskrit, but is being narrated in language like Hindi, which can be understood by the common public. Even from a historical point of view, Sanskrit was never the language of the general public. Then how can God, who has entered in a very ordinary human being, use such a complex language? Apart from this, Gita was not narrated by a corporeal prince Shri Krishna, who had an attractive name and form and who comes in the cycle of life and death, but by incorporeal God Shiva, who is ajanma [beyond worldly births], abhokta [beyond pleasures] at the end of the Iron Age through an ordinary human body [Prajapita Brahma] not just to one Arjuna, but it is being narrated to many other householders like Arjuna. It is written in Gita, “O Arjuna, you do not know your births [i.e. past lives]. I narrate to you the story of your past lives. Bahuni mein vyatietani janmaani tav charjun. Taanyaham ved sarvaani na twa vettha parantap. [Gita 4/5] But how can Krishna, who passes through the cycle of life and death himself, give the inheritance of true mukti [liberation] and jivanmukti [living a liberated life], and narrate the story of many births to other human souls? This proves that the story of many births, which is famous as Gita or Amarkatha [the story of becoming imperishable] is not narrated through corporeal Shri Krishna, but through the Supreme Soul Shiva, who is beyond life and death. AUTHOR:::::: shivbaba.org.pl/en/?name=arts-gita-god Add a caption Who is the real Gita sermonizer? –Incorporeal Shiv or the soul of corporeal Sri Krishna?:::::::::::: There is no doubt that Gita, which has been guiding the Indians since the last two and a half thousand years is a gem among all the scriptures. But there would not be as many commentaries by scholars and learned persons on any other scripture as on Gita, which proves that this scripture is so unique that the different kinds of clarifications on Gita given by human beings have never satisfied all the human beings. Someone has rightly said, Kai jaaney kavi, ya kai jaaney ravi. The poet only or the sun of knowledge can give the correct clarification of a poem. Rest of the clarifications given by the human beings will be incomplete from one point of view or the other. It has been fed in the minds of the general public that the Sermoniser of Gita was Shri Krishna, who gave the discourse of Gita to Arjuna sitting on a chariot in the war field of Kurukshetra. But if we look from a spiritual and historical angle then all the questions such as who, when, whom and where was Gita narrated are disputable. The story of Gita and Satyanarayana prove that God reveals himself in the form of an ordinary, old and experienced human being. It has been written in Gita: Avjaanaanti maam muha manurshee tanumashritam I Param bhaavamjaananto mam bhutmaheshwaram II [Gita 9/11] Further it has been written in Gita that God is ajanma [eternal], abhokta [one who does not enjyoy any pleasures] and avyakta [imperceptible]. Ajo S pi sannvyayatma bhutanamishraro S pi san I Prakriti swamdhishthaay sambhavamyatmamaayayaa II [Gita 4/6] Yo maamjamanaadim cha veti lokmaheshwaram I Asam-mudhah sa martyeshu sarvapapaih pramuchyatey II In the Shrimad Bhagwatgita that aadi-anadi purush [eternal being] has been praised – [tamev chadhyam purusham prapdhye yatah pravrittih prasuta puraani I Gita 15/4], i.e., I bow to that aadi-anaadi purush, who has first of all created this world-like tree. That eternal being [aadi purush] is telling himself: [Ahamadirhi devanam maharshinaam cha sarvashah-Gita 10/2], i.e., I am only the beginning of all the deities and sages. He only had propagated that famous principle of karma yoga [remembering God while performing actions] in the ancient times, due to which India got the name of karma bhumi [land of the actions of God] as per the Jaina tradition also [nishtha pura prokta mayanagh… karmayogen yoginaam-Gita 3/3] Here it may be recalled that the knowledge of Gita was not given by Shri Krishna, but by that aadi-anaadi purush [eternal being] to the householder Arjuna in order to teach the religion of household [grihastha-dharma] and to teach him easy Raja Yoga. In this connection, some of the quotes of famous historians are given below, without going into the details: The idea of Hopkins [on Gita] is that “The present Krishna-dominated form was earlier a Vishnu-dominated poem and prior to that it was a non-communal creation. Religions of India [1608] Page 386 [Radhakrishnan Gita, Page 17]. Farkuhar has written in Religious literature of India [1620] page 12-14, “This [Gita] is an ancient prose Upanishad, which was probably written after shwetashwataropanishad and which has been moulded into the present form after the death of Christ to support the Krishnaism by some poet. As per Garvey, “Bhagwatgita was earlier a scripture related to Sankhya-yoga, in which the methods of worship of Krishna Vasudev got included and it was adjusted as per the Vedic traditions by considering Krishna to be a form of Vishnu in the 3rd Century B.C. The main creation was written prior to 200 B.C and it has been given the present form by a disciple of Vedaant during 2 A.D. Holtzman believes Gita to be a later Vishnu-dominated form of a sarveshwarwadi poem. Keith also believes that originally Gita was a Shwetashwatar form of Upanishad, but later it was moulded in the form of Krishna worship. [An extract from the introduction to Radhakrishnan ‘Gita’, page 17] Shri Krishna was born from the womb of a mother. He enjoyed all the pleasures of life and had obtained knowledge from Guru Sandipani. He has mostly been depicted in childhood form. That is why the entire world cannot accept him as a Father. Secondly, it is famous in mythological stories that Shri Krishna narrated Gita only to one Arjuna while sitting on a chariot in the Copper Age [Dwapar Yug], but it is also famous that Sage Vyaas had written the scripture Mahabharata, which reached the general public in Sanskrit. From the historical point of view these points are disputable. Actually, Gita is the highest among all the scriptures [sarva shastra shiromani], but it was narrated in the confluence age of the 5000 years old world drama wheel consisting of four ages, i.e. at the confluence of the Iron Age and the Golden Age, which is being repeated now. Had Gita been narrated only in the Copper Age then how did the sinful Iron Age arrive? After the incarnation of God, it should have resulted in the commencement of Golden Age and not the most sinful Iron Age. And Gita is narrated in the Confluence Age, when all the religions, the religious followers and the religious fathers of those religions are present in their last birth. It is because of this only it has been said in Gita, “Renounce all the religions and come into my asylum, the asylum of one Supreme Soul. Sarvadharmanparityajya Mamekam Sharanam Vraj. Aham twa sarvapapebhyo mokshayami maa shuchah. [Gita 18/66] From the point of view of Hindus, when Gita was narrated in the Copper Age, then the religions like Islam, Sikhism etc. were not present. Then how did the above hymn [shloka] come in Gita? And the Gita was not narrated in a complex language like Sanskrit, but is being narrated in language like Hindi, which can be understood by the common public. Even from a historical point of view, Sanskrit was never the language of the general public. Then how can God, who has entered in a very ordinary human being, use such a complex language? Apart from this, Gita was not narrated by a corporeal prince Shri Krishna, who had an attractive name and form and who comes in the cycle of life and death, but by incorporeal God Shiva, who is ajanma [beyond worldly births], abhokta [beyond pleasures] at the end of the Iron Age through an ordinary human body [Prajapita Brahma] not just to one Arjuna, but it is being narrated to many other householders like Arjuna. It is written in Gita, “O Arjuna, you do not know your births [i.e. past lives]. I narrate to you the story of your past lives. Bahuni mein vyatietani janmaani tav charjun. Taanyaham ved sarvaani na twa vettha parantap. [Gita 4/5] But how can Krishna, who passes through the cycle of life and death himself, give the inheritance of true mukti [liberation] and jivanmukti [living a liberated life], and narrate the story of many births to other human souls? This proves that the story of many births, which is famous as Gita or Amarkatha [the story of becoming imperishable] is not narrated through corporeal Shri Krishna, but through the Supreme Soul Shiva*, who is beyond life and death.
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